Sousou no Frieren

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Vol. 1 Ch. 7 - The Land Where Souls Rest
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@twinklecake Thats a whole can of worms. I'm an atheist myself, so I know this thread is not big enough to discuss the morals of believing in a god or not. I agree that there are "better" kinds of hopes, but I also accept that they are only better for me and I can't force some believe on others. If they feel good because of their hope, I'm happy. I'm not gonna turn that into a discussion about religion
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@JabbaDaHud There's other, better sources of hope, drive and other nice things that make you keep on living other than the delusional bullshit people can't let themselves stop believing because it's what's been taught to them as kids. Proof: Millions of non-depressive atheists.

It's enough to just have one good friend. You don't need something that comes with a lot of logical fallacies and kiddy-fucking for hope.
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@SotiCoto Hope is for people to feel better. If you are in a dark place, wouldn't you wish for some light that would guide you to an exit? Thats what hope is for many people. Of you course its just wishful thinking, but it can let people strive forward despite feeling like shit. There are poeple who don't need hope because they have a very strong character, thats not a gift everyone has though.

Just let people have their hope, they do it to feel better. It only if you rely on hope/ a wonder to save you when it can have a bad effect. In that sense not hope, but naiveté is what leads people to do studip mistakes repeatedly
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Oh shit... So we do learn in that chapter how old she actually is. Over 1000 huh, that is pretty old for a elf.
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@Rhein11 : Hope is what prevents people learning from their mistakes and prompts them to keep doing the same stupid shit over and over again under the assumption that the outcome will be different.

So yeah, I know what hope is.
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@Soticoto yeah, it is obvious you don't get it

They didn't decide that it existed because it was better that way, heck, it even the priest says he is unsure if it is real or not. Them saying "because it is better this way" is more of them trying to be hopeful, but I assume you don't know what hope is either, do you?
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She's thousands of years old? Wow.
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So they decided heaven exists "because it is better that way" and they decided it is better that way because idiotic persistence machines desperately want to persist more.

Frankly if there is any one lesson EVERYONE needs to learn as a matter of priority... it is that reality doesn't give a flying fuck what you want. It is what it is. Not what you want it to be. Not what is convenient for you or anyone else. Not what seems most apt. Not what concludes things nicely. Reality is just a heaping mess of effectively random shit that just happened and kept happening until it ran out of energy... which is generally where it breaks down.

So no. More than anything, a notion like "heaven" needs actual rational justification AND evidence. Merely wanting it to be so is not even within a thousand miles of sufficient.

So retarded.


So anyway... they're going to find the soul-nipple in Anor Londo. Good stuff. It isn't much like it used to be since it became the Boreal Valley though.
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@lespookycarrot Those who don't find their lives rewarding also have similar sleep patterns
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@KappaDvorak wielding into battle and doing simple tasks are way different
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I need a priest like Heiter to shine my way in life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSUwDb6sUHU started playing in my head after page 20
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@KappaDvorak Tilted me too.
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Lesson to learn from this chapter:
The longest lived people sleep in the weirdest of ways.
Last edited 2 mo ago by lespookycarrot.
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“Heaven does exist since it’s better that way” truly a good answer.... throw back to what the corrupt priest said before about memory being lost when a person dies
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Wholesome
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Fern was so done
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dwarf 27 years ago : I cant wield axe
dwarf now : holding boulder more than 3x his size just fine
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You've heard about McMansions. Now, meet the McCastle.

Seriously. That thing is an architectural abomination. It seems the owner was not only the Demon King, but also the Demon of Bad Taste.
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Lovely manga.
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