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Ch. 971 - Condemned to Boil
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you gotta admit though, said troll is pretty based for triggering dozens of people with a simple comment.
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Anyone coming to this comment section do not give xpehbam any attention, he's just a sad troll who has no one to have a proper conversation with irl lol
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@xpehbam what's your point then?
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@havelmom your objection is subjective. Oda holds true to the oden's characteristic. Oden is not sanji who do think large scale efficiently. Oden is just like kaido said it, a fool of a lord, who think orochi have dignity enough to hold his promise
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@goodhunter yes. That's why oden want to open the border of wano. He is so open-minded, forgiving and decisive. Such a traits that must one looked into. All this traits will do if they have power to make it true
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bro the next chapter is 21 feb? what?
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Getting a bit pedantic here but shouldn't "boiling" with oil be called frying instead?
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@xpehbam - While I don't really care if you do or don't like Oden, I think your view of the situation is incredibly shallow and myopic. It's not wrong to say Oden is a very simple man, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot either. In your interpretation of the situation you're forgetting an incredibly important piece of the puzzle: Culture.
We can say with high certainty that there are a lot of myths, misconceptions, and fantasy with regards to actual japanese history. Those things aren't actually important here, though. What we have in Wano is a hyperbolic version of a stereotypical, and idealized, feudal Japan. Even with the added fantasy-adventure elements that are all around, this core truth should be abundantly obvious. While the exact nuances may be more obvious for native readers, the overall theme should still be obvious enough. This is a society where 'bushi' and the lifestyle of the warrior caste reign supreme. A place where honor is held in the absolute highest regard, and where lying or scheming would be deemed cowardly and dishonorable; which could result in disastrous consequences. The higher your position, the more you're expected to uphold these values. You'll notice even the yakuza in this story (and in other stories as well) also follow a strict code, even though they are quite clearly a type of criminal element.
Knowing all of this, it's really not that surprising that Oden would have expectations of them keeping their end of a deal. As the readers, we have significantly more insight of the bigger picture. For the people of Wano, Orochi and Kaido are elements that go completely against their usual way of life. Oden is definitely naive and simple, but he's also just one man; even if he's strong. The people of Wano itself are just as responsible for where things head by being complicit. Something we learn they've later realized.
It's One Piece, though. Things are always going to go to cartoonish extremes to emphasise a point. If it frustrates you that much you could just take a break for a while and come back refreshed.
Man, typing really fast sucks sometimes. You end up typing way more than you thought in just a minute or two... Soryy bout that.
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Even if you hate Orochi, you have to admit that what was done to him and his family was pretty fucked up. Just because his father decided to do what he did, his entire family was killed and punished. I understand that it was Japanese tradition for such a thing that the entire household pay the sins, but that doesn't make it right or correct. If we allow tradition to blind us to what is good and right, then we'll never truly evolve and take steps forward as humans. While what Orochi doing right now is outright horrible, what was done to him through the nation's traditions and laws was also horrible.
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Good ole Oden saving few so they can then live under 20 years of shit rule.
Hindsight really is 20/20 haha
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yeah he saved a few lives but condemed waaay more to death, starvation and suffering at the hand of kaido for decades.
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yea, he's not protecting anything
he just negotiated with a terrorist who, surprise surprise, couldn't be bargained with

Oda is a genius, but he's kinda dumb in these matters
perhaps the word is not even dumb, but innocent
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If he "protected this country" then why is he boiling in a vat of oil? All he really did was humiliate himself in front of the entire nation while they continued to rule and made preparations to deal with him.
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Carrying everyone on his back. That's probably symbolism.
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Found this while looking up boiling execution. Looks familiar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Excecution_of_Goemon_Ishikawa.jpg

"Bandit Ishikawa Goemon was boiled to death for the attempted assassination of warlord Toyotomi Hideyoshi in 16th-century Japan."
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He's a bigger man than Kaido will ever be. He was willing to dance naked in the street to save 100 lives, everyday.

Oden deserves to be honored to the max for being a great man, father, and legend that he is.
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The fact that every one of them is alive, means that oden survived for 1 whole hour.

Damn...

What a beast, legend, and leader.

RESPECT!!!
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@xpehbam do you even understand this manga and this arc
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@xpehbam The country was at peace when Oden was dancing. Once again, did you even read the chapter ?
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>trusts Kaido and Orochi to leave if he acts like a clown for 5 years while his people suffer and the enemy grows stronger
>thinks it's totally okay since he is saving some hostages
>surprised people call him an idiot

Okay then.
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