Mousou Telepathy

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Vol. 7 Ch. 645 - The Difference
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@Fluffyfish they comment on this fact a few chapters ago with the fact that Nakano doesn't want the guy to get in trouble because he didn't actually do anything. It's the dilemma of thought and action, especially cause the guy is never really shown, and we'll never know if the guy was gonna act on those thoughts (btw, in this case, I think it would have been probable as the guy says: "huh? she isn't alone? isn't she too young for a boyfriend?" (Ch.643) but we'll never know). I guess you could compare it to someone whispering creepy shiz into your ear, but in this case, without restraint and unbeknownst to everyone else, a lot more creepy, but because it's thought, not really punishable.
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@eviljackspicer But revealing that she's been reading his mind would destabilize one of the foundations of their relationship-- he (and his sister) thinks that she can actually read his facial expressions. At this point, it shouldn't matter much, but she's got enough insecurities already that she probably thinks it'll jeopardize what they've got.
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The difference is Toda's fantasies all involve consensual lewding.
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ITT: Toda did nothing wrong
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Considering all of your perverted thoughts have involved consent, Toda, I think you're probably in the clear on that.
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God, mind reading and moral judgements are *tough*.
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That's one controversial topic.

All I can say is that a person should never be judged by their thoughts alone. Actions can be moral or immoral, but not thoughts. Obviously she still has the right to be creeped out by what she heard (mind readers make this complicated), but that's something else.
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Let's remember, she was totally creeped out by him at the beginning.

However, Toda never actually seemed like he *would* act on those thoughts. She had no reason to necessarily believe that bus-molester-kun *wasn't* going to act on those thoughts. The way it reads implies that he's done it before.

One is creepy and gross but not an actual threat to her body. The other is creepy and gross AND a legitimate threat.

If Toda had suddenly cornered her in a class room and started thinking about how "She wouldn't kick up a fuss if I just did it," then there'd be a legitimate threat and she'd probably react just the same.
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If the one thinking lewd things anout you is the one you like you find it "Ah sht here we go again"
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Toda's fantasies never involved raping Nakano or in general doing anything to her without her consent. That's I believe a fundamental and important difference between him and the guy on the bus.
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It's not a crime if she wants it.
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The big difference here is that Toda's just an hormones-filled teenager who fantasizes about his crush without ever trying to act upon his (pretty tame) delusions. Nakano was reasonably creeped out at first (it's kinda unrealistic that she'd never perceived similar thoughts from other people before, but this was probably the first time they were directed at her) but over time she realized Toda was more than just a pervert, and that he really appreciated her for being able to understand him; with this slow realization, she fell for him too.
On the other hand, we have a random guy on the bus which we know nothing about, except the fact that he's clearly an adult, and maybe someone with an unstable mind, who starts imagining how nice it'd be to violate her right there on the spot, and he may turn his thoughts into action at any moment.
Really, thinking this is all about looks is just plain silly.
Last edited 4 mo ago by Nightlilygirl-.
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Toda wants to fuck Nakano because he harbors romantic feelings for her; his thoughts never expressed an intent to harm her and he only desired a willing partner during his fantasies. "Creep" only wants to molest her because he had a bad day and there was the likely possibility that he would carry out this desire, whether or not Nakano's willing. "Creep" also could have molested other girls prior to this moment.
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The difference is simple, bus guy had actual malicious intent towards her and there's a good chance he may have even acted on that impulse. Toda not once thought of harming her in any way. Also lol at the idea of her telling about the mind reading, that's a quick way to give the lad permanent mental trauma.
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@bcs also the creep dreamed about raping her and ruining her life and messing her up mentally, while Toda fantasises about having a cute family life with her.

Both of them are equally harmless if they aren't heard, but there's a whole world of difference of reaction between "I want to cherish you and love you lots" and "I want to fuck you and rape you until you can't sleep at night and so you flunk your exams and your whole life is ruined".

Nanako's not imagining the guy being ugly, she's imagining the guy wanting to fucking torture her because that's exactly what the guy is thinking.
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I saw SJW @_@
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It's really not that hard. Toda is fantasizing about her, yes, but he wants it to be consensual. He wants her to enjoy it too as a willing participant. Creep on the bus was fantasizing about sexually assaulting minors, enjoying the thought of how she'd be too meek to cry out. Attractiveness isn't a factor, that's just creepy as fuck.
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Okay there's a lot of shit going here simultaneously.

"Creep" on the bus wants to fuck Nakano because she is hot.

Toda also wants to fuck Nakano because she is hot. And he's in love with her, but that's largely irrelevant.

People in the comment section are having a cognitive dissonance crisis trying to accept how similiar both of these are, desperately trying to somehow explain how one is okay but the other is not, with hilariously disastrous results.

Nakano doesn't mind Toda wanting to fuck her because he is hot. Also she might be in love with him, but that's largely irrelevant. (She certainly was NOT in love with him the first few times he had sexual thoughts about her, and yet reacted completely different than how she reacted to the "Creep")

Nakano minds "Creep" wanting to fuck her because she doesn't know how hot he is and assumes he is ugly. Ugly == Creep. Apparently she lived seventeen years of her life without any other male on the planet thinking about fucking her because this is a shit-tier manga and characters don't exist outside of panels.

Toda is equating himself to an actual molester because he thinks of fucking a hot girl he is in love with. He's the largest victim here, really. Victim of the author.
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He thinks only lewd thoughts of her and no one else.
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How is it different?
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