Hatsukoi Zombie

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Vol. 17 Ch. 160 - Nothing But Your Desire...
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@elfalas
Trolls? You mean people who offer disingenuous comments and evade responsibility for their actions? I sure hope they reform themselves.
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I hope the author is not trying to make Eve evil as a cop-out.
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Seems there's a rulebreaking troll provoking others into breaking rules aswell in this thread..

And honestly, I'd consider a guy far more dangerous/risky if he tries to equal wishing something bad on fiction with wishing something bad on reality,
when compared to someone that might wish something nasty on fiction while making a clear distinction between fiction and reality.
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@Zephyrus

Then please get that added, because it's rather bad the way it is now.

A rules section is something that's supposed to be trustworthy and reliable, who or what are people to trust or believe in on a site when they can't trust what's written there like now?
So yes go and get everything added, and if for some reason you can't, then stop moderating people that followed the written rules.

I just dislike unfairness, which taking action against people for things that doesn't go against the official rules definitely is.
(How are they supposed to know of 'hidden rules' that could just aswell be the whims of the moderator with how they don't match the rules section?)


Just see to it that your moderating actions and the written rules align, I frankly don't care which is changed to fit the other or if you change both, just see to it they align.
(Means far less room for anyone to complain or argue against what you do, so would be in your interest to do something about it I believe.)
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Why are the comments on this manga always so fucking gay
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@Yautja
More posturing. You don't have anything to say about yourself? That is what I'm insulting here, it's you, and I've made it clear this whole time. What's with this, unprompted defense of context, as if it has anything to do with this?

Now here it is again, when you feel emotional and hurt, you use the empty invocation of violence to nurse your feelings. Disgusting, and the mark of a pathetic man.

Last edited 4 mo ago by SJP.

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@SJP
I think you don't know what an argument is let alone what makes a cohesive or logical arguement.

You still don't understand sarcasm I see and don't see how little sense there is in what you've said. I cannot believe you just admitted you believe context doesn't matter. Complexity or lack of doesn't make context any less important.

I don't have the necessary qualifications to deal with you so I'll leave it to the professionals. I wouldn't want a lawsuit for hate crimes.
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@raven_freak
If you know the difference between reality and fiction, why would you wish a real life crime, or a sexually gratifying fantasy, on a fictional character? You are not stupid, but you do not know yourself.
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@Yautja
Do you think this is an argument? If so, what are we arguing about then? Whether or not you're pathetic?

Why would the context matter, you've done nothing complicated. I haven't judged you for disliking the series, but for the words you choose to post. Pretending otherwise does yourself a disservice, look at the way you contort yourself to evade having to take this minimal responsibility for your actions.
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I know I'm a bit late, but @Yautja I get it. On another manga ch I specifically said something about "X character deserves to get raped.", only to later have someone tell me I'm stupid and that it's not cool that you want a fictional character to get raped. I counter argued that I know the difference between reality (where raping is something I wouldn't wanna wish on anyone) and fiction, and again this person still thinks I'm stupid. Obviously they weren't having it. I think it was unfair that they're essentially saying "X character is real and you shouldn't wish rape upon them." I keep my problems about character to just them, if I disagree with someone then I might be like hey, I think you might be wrong.

If a character is being promiscuous, by all means call them a slut. Obviously don't go around calling other users sluts!
-Holo
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@bastek66 it's 2 chapters left since 165 raw just came out a couple hours earlier. Also my guess is 167 will be the epilogue, so all of these love triangle and FLZ problems gonna be concluded in 166 which will come out next week.
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Really disappointed by the author on this one (or maybe it's because of an Axe). He/she is going the easy route of "eve is actually evil" to resolve the situation which is a shame. Afterwards, taro will realize that "actually, I love ibisuku and don't *him* to disappear from my life blablabla". So fucking stupid.
The "I love this being who doesn't is like a spirit even though others think it isn't healthy for me" plot was way more interesting than that and with wat things were going, taro would have ended up choosing eve which, to me, is the most interesting path to take. It was either that or Tarou ending up alone and just continuing his life. At that point, Ibisuku and Ebino were no longer viable option with everything that had happened and still aren't.
I just hope that at the very least, since tarou clearly won't end up with Eve, he won't go the Ibisuku path. At the very least, don't make him choose fucking Ibisuku. Not after all the lies.
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Damn. so much salt. in here lol.

I cant believe so many still don't understand that 90% of the time the girl Most involved in the plot wins at the end. and that the fantasy/ghost/imaginary/delusions are never chosen.
It was clear like 5 chapters in that it was going to lead to Ibitsuki "winning" the harem. Eve is ibitsuki, and we saw early on that the zombies dissapear when first love is realised. so tarou and Ibitsuki have to end up together for the first love to be realised and for eve to bloom and then dissapear. its not a sad ending. thats what eve's purpose has been since the very begining and will probably be how Tarou and ibitsuki stop seeing the zombie afterward. I mean. thats the whole plot, the whole point of the serie. Ending other wise would be like naruto not becoming hokage or luffy to not become pirate king at the end of their respective manga.

It is to note that the author just never gave Ebino enough importance to expect otherwise even if you like her. An as for Eve, how did you expect she would even win? shes a fake ibitsuki lol. the only other option is that no one really wins. Sit down and calmly read the few chapters that are left and lets just at least hope the way it is presented makes some kind of sense.

Last edited 4 mo ago by woks.

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@SJP
Ah, the context doesn't matter argument. Stupid is as stupid does. Guess disliking a series means you're pathetic; you're pathetic for thinking I'm pathetic, plain and simple. I retract my statement about 8th grade English, you need to go back to the 3rd grade.
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@Yautja
Why would you think it matters if I believe you were serious or not? The feelings that you expressed were pathetic, plain and simple.
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@Diabl0 Manga is ending in 4 chapters. There won't be any stretching anymore.
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Mangaka is streeeeetttttcccccchhhhiiiiinnnnngggggg the length still, like honestly, FUCK OFF WITH 4 MORE BOOKS END. IT. good or bad. END IT!!!!!!!!!!
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hmmm
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@FredFriendly
It wasn't meant to help, it was meant to illustrate how inconsistent Zeph has been and still seems to be in both logic and semantics. My personal opinion is I don't care what words are used, I care about how they're used, what the context is and what is discernible about the intent. My biggest problem is "their rules" are poorly defined and inconsistently enforced as shown in that thread. Specifically 5.3.1; arguably he'd be within his "rights" to ban you by that rule, as illustrated in that thread.
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I wanted to add my opinion to the mix, but it appears that the rules have changed, so none of the points I was going to write down would've been appropriate anymore.

With that said, I recommend everyone review the new rules before continuing this discussion. Specifically:
5.1.2 Sexism: One gender is not inherently superior to another. Harassing someone solely on the basis of gender is not acceptable on MangaDex. This extends to profile biographies, user names, and avatars.

5.1.4 Other Terminology: This category includes everything else that does not neatly fit under the above categories. It includes, but is not limited to, rape jokes, homophobia, transphobia, and direct personal attacks.


So from what I can see, the use of "faggot" being unacceptable falls under the new 5.1.4 (homophobia).
While the use of "slut" or "whore" appears acceptable, as it doesn't fall under 5.1.2 (harassment based solely on gender), and as long as it's not used for direct personal attacks, won't fall under 5.1.4 either.
And since people can't *directly* attack fictional characters anyway, it's totally alright to call them "slut" or "whore".

At least that's how I interpret the new rules, and does in no way reflect my own opinion on what's acceptable or not.

Last edited 4 mo ago by Nolonar.

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