Mushoku Tensei ~Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu~ Japanese

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Vol. 9 Ch. 44 - Rescuing Lilia
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question...what the fuck happened here?
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he is still howling in the windπŸ˜‚
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@shii
Guess this is the last time I'll bother with you then. As fun as it is to watch you calling yourself a pussy repeatedly, I've other things to get on with now.

I've been on the internet for 23 years, but I've never ever seen anybody self-own themselves as badly as you have over these last eleven days and I doubt I'll ever find another lulzcow as big as you.
Have fun with the rest of your life I guess, perhaps some day you'll grow up but I have extreme doubts about that.
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he is still howling in the windπŸ˜‚
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@shii


Should have been more careful huh? Now your words get to come back and bite you in the ass even moreso :^)
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he is still howling in the windπŸ˜‚
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@shii
"I'm blocking you!"
(Keeps replying.)

Pottery. You're the one who said he was going to stop replying, not me.
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he is still howling in the windπŸ˜‚
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@shii
"I'm blocking you!"
(Keeps replying.)

Pottery.
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And look, he is still howling in the windπŸ˜‚
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@shii
Nice block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
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@Yautja

I know you long bowed out of this argument when Amplify couldn't refute you, but thought you would like a good laugh at how far Amplify will go to win an argument by twisting reality.

Go back to page 6. That is when he tried backpedaling.

Last edited 11 days ago by shii.

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Sad little boy howling in the wind in angry that he lost a internet argument.πŸ˜‚
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@shii
I'm being dishonest in saying that I've thought your post was a demand since the start? How delusional are you exactly?

Just because I didn't directly say something, doesn't mean I wasn't thinking it.
Feel free to flee with your tail between your legs.
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@Amplify

So you're purposely being a dishonest and warping reality, got it.

If you were autistic, then I could give you leeway on your behavior but since you're purposely lying then I'm not going to continue wasting my time with ya.

Enjoy being blocked.
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@shii
No.

Are you? You seem determined to continue your little hissyfit long after you've lost it.
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@Amplify

Answer my question, are you autistic in real life.
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@shii
The first time you even made a direct comment about my suggestion was 4 days ago where you called it a demand and then I asked you to actually quote it.

I've been talking about your post since minute 1. Just because I didn't directly call it a demand right there and then, doesn't mean I wasn't treating it as a demand or not thinking it was a demand.

Doesn't really matter now. Once people vote on a strawpoll they can't change their votes.

I'm perfectly happy to remake the thread and strawpoll if you like? Anything you would like me to include in the OP?
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@Amplify

It's been ten days, since my very first reply to you. I did not use the word "demand", as I felt that it went without saying and didn't realise you were going to try to pretend it wasn't a demand.


The first time you even made a direct comment about my suggestion was 4 days ago where you called it a demand and then I asked you to actually quote it.

This is honestly the most pathetic thing you have done yet in this whole argument. Which really makes me wonder if you're autistic in real life, are you?

Your post has full context, I even added a picture of your post to the OP of the thread along with a description of the circumstances.


Doesn't really matter now. Once people vote on a strawpoll they can't change their votes.

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@shii
You know damn well it hasn't been a week since you started arguing "Your suggestion was a demand!", it been two days

It's been ten days, since my very first reply to you. I did not use the word "demand", as I felt that it went without saying and didn't realise you were going to try to pretend it wasn't a demand.

I started by calling you entitled as that's what I felt your demand was, then my second post was:
You don't get to decide what is an isn't a waste of a group's time, only they do. They're translating because they want to, you're here reading it because you want to, you don't get to decide anything for them and they're not doing it for your praise - they're doing it for themselves and maybe the occasional donation if anyone feels like giving them one.

which again doesn't directly use the word "demand", but make absolutely no mistake; I am talking directly about your demand there and that is 100% what I was treating your post as, since the first minute.

Your post has full context, I even added a picture of your post to the OP of the thread along with a description of the circumstances.
I have already put up evidence to prove that it was a suggestion by providing the definitions of both words, which you then twisted to fit your autistic perception.

Go ahead and add your evidence there as well then, see how many people agree with it.

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@Amplify

You know damn well it hasn't been a week since you started arguing "Your suggestion was a demand!", it been two days and I have already put up evidence to prove that it was a suggestion by providing the definitions of both words, which you then twisted to fit your autistic perception.

Now not only did you make a flawed strawpoll without any context now you're intentionally lying about when this argument started. You're a waste of oxygen.
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@shii
What context do you think is going to change it? I mean, I've been offering you over a week to put forth some sort of context or evidence that would make it into a suggestion, yet you've repeatedly declined to do so and avoided the question like the plague, so all I could do was present my side as you've been refusing to give your side.
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@Amplify

Of course the votes going to show that when you didn't put any context into the question.

That likes me asking others,"My girlfriend left me after cheating on me", was she in the wrong for doing so? Everyone will say she was in the wrong till I add context and tell them the reason she left is because I was a piece of shit boyfriend that cheated on her and abused her. People opinion will change in a heartbeat telling me I deserved to be cheated on and dumped.

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@shii


Don't worry, I'm perfectly happy to let you dig your own grave over there. I'm sure you'll now try to tell me that those two votes outweigh the thirty four votes or something, your cognitive dissonance has reached crazy levels.
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@Amplify

That was the percentage I read, oops.

I went ahead and made an account to give context. Don't worry LOL.
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@shii
8 people agree that it's a suggestion, so people are on my side

Which eight exactly? If eight people agree with you, why are there only two votes for you in the poll?

https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/anyone-here-confident-in-their-skill-in-the-english-language.76363/#post-4455219
With context, added as soon as that guy asked.
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@Amplify

8 people agree that it's a suggestion, so people are on my side, and not surprise people would think of it as a demand when you remove context around why I said it. Good job of twisting the situation to fit your purpose.

Hilarious you would make a strawpoll for this argument LOL. Really shows how autistic you are in being wrong.
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@shii
https://www.strawpoll.me/16782892
Oh well, looks like you're massively outvoted. I put it up to the court of public opinion and people aren't on your side at all.

https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/anyone-here-confident-in-their-skill-in-the-english-language.76363/
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@Amplify

Having a brain is great, you should try growing one.


LOL, what is this middle school? I know you're autistic and most likely mentally challenged but damn come up with a better insult then this.

Since you call them "retarded fucks" it's an insulting demand, much like how you'd abuse slaves.


Comparing calling someone retard fucks to abusing slaves. You're reaching a new level of autistic LOL.

But anyways, you have a new argument to present or you just going to keep throwing middle school insults around like a child throwing a tantrum?

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@shii
The irony in your post is so thick it's almost material.
“accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion”
It won't work on anyone with a brain though, sorry. Having a brain is great, you should try growing one.

Since you call them "retarded fucks" it's an insulting demand, much like how you'd abuse slaves. Your backpedaling is sad to the point of being pathetic.

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@Amplify

Saying you've won the argument, doesn't mean you've won the argument,


Yeah because the person who lost the argument after embrassing him for a week will TOTALLY admit he was wrong. If you had that kind of self awareness and maturity, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place now would we?

Only person that is pathetic is you bucko.

You spent a week arguing about someone opinion and now you're trying to change the meaning of the word demand when backed into a corner.

Like seriously, how autistic of a person are you and why didn't your parents get you any help so you don't spazz out for stupid stuff?

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@shii
Saying you've won the argument, doesn't mean you've won the argument, how fucking delusional do you have to be?

You have nothing, I keep giving you chances and you keep screwing them up. Why on earth are you being this pathetic?
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@Amplify

What a surprise, you're still doubling down and repeating yourself! (sarcasm)

Looks like that's all you can do now that you lost the argument. Man how sad is that huh. Spending a week blowing LetItGo's cock and pretending to be intelligent just to continuously spin yourself in a circle when you have nothing else to contribute.

Let me know when you have a NEW(keyword right here buddy) argument to present which I can shoot down, till then eat a dick and don't waste anymore of my time you autistic potato.

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@shii
I have to repeat myself as you refuse to learn.

You haven't addressed anything of the sort, in fact you've repeatedly done everything to avoid it. Any time you want to pick your balls up from my mantelpiece, man the fuck up and come at me honestly without simply trying to blow smoke up everyone's ass, I will be ready and waiting for you.

Feel free to show me any time where in the English language that a demand also requires a threat as part of it as you seem to think so, until then your silence says everything it needs to do.
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I appreciate the effort of going through a second translation, but the global quality of this one is relatively low considering the first one.
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why are we getting repeats
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@Amplify

Already address how you are wrong and you're continuing to double down on your ignorance.

If all you want to do is twist words and definition of stuff, then I won't waste anymore time arguing with a autistic potato like yourself.

If you're going to keep repeating yourself, then I will consider this stupid argument over with you not learning anything from it.
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@shii
Saying the same thing over and over when it's not based on any evidence or logic or anything else, just makes you look like a fucking retard. If you can't understand that then you shouldn't be getting into debates.

My evidence is the dictionary itself and your own words that I've directly quoted over and over again, whereas I give you every possible opportunity to show me some part or word of your own demand that makes it into a suggestion instead, or for you to show me one single quote of mine that is supporting "Letitgo", not "the scanlator", and show in the process that you understand that the two entities can and are being treated differently, and you've utterly failed to do so on all possible levels.

Back your arguments up with evidence and sound logic, or begone. If you come at me with all this nothing, you'll never get anywhere, and your refusal to ever address the central point itself speaks volumes.

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Does this site have an ADM? I'm tired of stupid arguing
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@Amplify
My goal was to get you to this state you're in right now


Where I am tired of having to repeat myself to someone below me? Congrats you have definitely achieved that goal then.

you can never argue your way out of the unassailable logic of my rebuttals


Now I know you're 100% trolling or autistic to say something this fucking stupid LOL. This truly belongs on /r/iamverysmart.

so you've admitted it by giving up and trying to blow smoke up everyone's ass, since your pride makes you unable to just admit it straight up.


The irony of you of all people saying this. You were sucking LetItGo's PR cock this whole time and bitching about other people's opinions, and instead of backing down when you realize how much of a autistic fuckwit you are after me and Yajuta made you look, you just keep doubling down and twisting words till the other person gets tired of having to repeat themselves.
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@shii
"You've lost the argument because I say so, after I've realised how badly I've fucked up and can't find a single way to get out of admitting my first post was a demand after all!"
t. shii

My goal was to get you to this state you're in right now, where you've dug yourself into this pit so deeply that you know full well you can never argue your way out of the unassailable logic of my rebuttals so you've admitted it by giving up and trying to blow smoke up everyone's ass, since your pride makes you unable to just admit it straight up. Honestly if you had simply admitted your fuckup and moved on without any blustering or crying of the kind that you're doing right now, I'd have probably died of shock.

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@Amplify

Stop dodging my question by wanting to continue an argument which you already lost in and answer it.

What is your goal at the end of this argument huh?


Going on 7 days and you seem to be austitic-ly set on arguing when LetItGo doesn't care about criticism made against them anymore.
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I Want a new chapter, and I want the translation to be good, PERIOD, I don't care about who is translating, if they're doing a good job I will read their version. Now, can you guys stop complaining and arguing about this and start talking about the manga itself? thanks.
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@shii
Yautja was completely incapable of proving the one central point he's been basing his arguments on. He pulled a time frame out of his ass and has been using it to justify *everything*. He couldn't provide a source for it, so I stopped bothering with him.
The burden of proof is on him. If he can't prove his claim, then there's nothing I need to do.

If you can't get the BASIC DICTIONARY DEFINITION of the word "demand" through your skull, then you're not worth my time either.
Want me to link the dictionary definition for you? I can do that.
Want me to put it up to a vote and ask the court of public opinion if the sentence:
Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you retarded fucks.

qualifies as a demand or not? I can do that.
But if all you're going to do is call a spade anything other than a spade in a desperate and pathetic attempt to save face, then that's a new level of sad.
You made a demand, own up to it either verbally, through massive backpedaling and inventing your own unique dictionary definitions, or through your silence. It's your choice.

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@Amplify

I erased the comment I had pointing out how each other arguments you were making were wrong or how you're full of shit because all you're doing is arguing for arguing sake.

This discussion has been going on for 6 days now, for what?

What is your goal at the end of this argument huh?

Because if it's just to troll and get mad at someone expressing their opinion, then I'm going to drop the convo and stop entertaining a basement dweller like yourself, just like Yautja since he has busted your arguments and made you stop rebutting against him.

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@shii
It goes without saying they have a second choice of refusing to follow my suggestion you dumbass

Everyone, with everything in life, has a choice. If however you tell somebody to do a certain thing and do not present them with any sort of alternative choice, then that statement is not a suggestion it is a demand. Why do I have to spell this out for you repeatedly? You're just trying to wriggle out of something that's cut and dry and I ain't having none of that shit.
We are talking about if your statement was structured as a demand or as a suggestion, not if he was physically capable of doing something else entirely. I cannot make it any simpler for you.
You're playing semantics and doing a poor job of it.

Incredibly rich coming from somebody who is trying to claim that just because you were not physically forcing him to do the thing you were demanding he do, means that it wasn't a demand.

Let me screenshot where you have defended LetItGo's PR person, GoderKing.

Okay, which part of those is me defending him? I'm talking to him in the context of what he is there, not because of who he is.
You have to show me something that I would have said SPECIFICALLY to him and not any old translator who was being attacked for translating an already translated chapter. I didn't even know the guy existed before this chapter was put up, but I support his position and that's what is key here.

Already pointed out how retarded this logic is. It appears you are an utter retard to think if someone makes a demand then you don't get to refuse it unless there is an option included along with it.

Show me in the dictionary definition of "demand", where it requires some sort of physical action forcing that person along with the demand, to make them actually do the demand or it ceases to be one.
A demand is a demand, it doesn't magically stop being a demand if the other party refuses to capitulate to it.
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@Amplify

Your sentence tells the recipient to do a specific action and does not present an option for a second choice to continue doing their previous action, so it is a demand and not a suggestion.


It goes without saying they have a second choice of refusing to follow my suggestion you dumbass(WHICH THEY DID) or you want to argue that if someone makes a demand you don't have the right to refuse it? If so, you're an utter retard.

What I have been defending is "the scanlator". What I am neutral on is "Letitgo". For the purpose of what I originally said, those two things are separate entities.


You're playing semantics and doing a poor job of it.

Let me screenshot where you have defended LetItGo's PR person, GoderKing.



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I have no doubts you'll just dodge the question, or try to twist the meaning of your own words into something else entirely. That's all you're capable of.


Nice job of twisting my words. What you highlighted doesn't = "LetItGo shouldn't be allowed to host their translations on here.".

Me saying LetItGo should post their translated works on their website =/= "LetItGo shouldn't be allowed to host their translations on here."

Ignoring your post is not an option presented by you in your demand, you would have had to have included such a statement as an extra line in your original post to qualify and thus presenting a second option with it so as to make it qualify as a suggestion


Already pointed out how retarded this logic is. It appears you are an utter retard to think if someone makes a demand then you don't get to refuse it unless there is an option included along with it. Let's test this out your logic shall we?

Amplify, go kill yourself.

Now will you follow my demand or will you refuse it, without there being an option for a refusal, which would mean what? My "demand" is a suggestion? I can't wait to see what retard logic you will use to get out of this.

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@shii
Suggestions can start any kind of way you dumbass.

Yes which is why I gave an example, as in one of the possible starts and not the only one.
why don't you devote your time

The irony is that you yourself even put in the important keywords "why don't you" in your example, which is the critical qualifier for turning it into something other than a demand.
This sentence of yours:
Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you retarded fucks.

lacks that critical part, or any suitable substitute. Without your statement presenting what it is saying as offering an alternate choice, then it is not a suggestion. Your sentence tells the recipient to do a specific action and does not present an option for a second choice to continue doing their previous action, so it is a demand and not a suggestion.

where you're defending LetItGo at every turn

And to say it again, show me one time I've defended "Letitgo".
What I have been defending is "the scanlator". What I am neutral on is "Letitgo". For the purpose of what I originally said, those two things are separate entities.
I defend any and all scanlator's rights to translate an already translated chapter, I'm not defending "Letitgo" specifically.

Quote where I said, "LetItGo shouldn't be allowed to host their translations on here.", I will wait.


I have no doubts you'll just dodge the question, or try to twist the meaning of your own words into something else entirely. That's all you're capable of.

YES. They can simply ignore my suggestion

Ignoring your post is not an option presented by you in your demand, you would have had to have included such a statement as an extra line in your original post to qualify and thus presenting a second option with it so as to make it qualify as a suggestion.

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@Amplify
The central point of your entire argument from the start boils down to:
Three months is a long enough period of time to wait before poaching a manga project unannounced. <- Bullshit it does

Before anything else you must prove that this is the case, that there is some sort of internationally agreed upon standard for all groups that "three months" makes a project fair game. If you cannot do that or show where you pulled the time frame of specifically "three months" and what you're basing it on, then the linchpin you're building your entire house of cards of an argument upon crumbles into dust along with it.
If you cannot do that, then this is my very last post giving you any attention.


The CEO of Moron Global yet again blatantly lies in an attempt to appear correct. You also literally proved my words true. You refuse to accept any proof against your position by screeching that information or examples aren't specific enough, demand impossibilities, outright lie, or utilize petty fallacies. Someone's been taking lessons from Trump and the Paul Brothers. Guess you're going to pretend my last reply didn't occur.

How about you show proof about literally anything you claim and that I've called you out on? You clearly know jack shit about what you're speaking of; ask translators, ask groups, look at Baka. It's not a written rule anywhere you moron. This isn't a bureaucracy with a rule book. It's a commonly accepted normality. But, to humor your stupidity, how about we look at baka again; After 6 months a group is marked as inactive, so logically, a series would surely be marked as dead after 6 months as well. We can clearly discard your bullshit 1 year claim. However, if it takes 6 months to mark a series as dead, how long should we take to mark a series dead? Some series are updated on a monthly or bimonthly basis, so 1 or 2 months is a bit short in specific cases. On a currently publishing series it can be translated anywhere between the day of it's release to a week or two later. For most series being translated, that are completed or have multiple chapters out, they're released on a weekly basis. Some translations are irregular, but most follow a weekly schedule. 3 months is more than reasonable. 1 Year is clearly bullshit. Every time myself or Shi have effectively cornered you, you run away by moving the goal posts, with a reductio ad absurdum or a generic fallacy by making ridiculous requests for absurdly specific instances.

That's a hell of a lot more "proof" and logic than any of your ridiculous claims.

Come on, answer my challenge; How many series have LetItGo picked up which had been updated less a year, and or 3 months ago. You're the one who said 1 year, not me. Come on, answer. Prove yourself a hypocrite.

And yet again you reply, This your third "last reply". I am positive. My translation is 100% accurate.

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@Amplify

Suggestions start with things like "Perhaps you should spend your time doing"
Demands start with things like "Devote your time to doing"


Suggestions can start any kind of way you dumbass.

Let me give you an example

Father sees son wasting his time arguing with folks on the internet and tells his son,"Amplify, why don't you devote your time to getting out of the basement and not arguing with folks."

Is the Father demanding his son devote his time to something else and stop arguing with folks or suggesting it? The latter, but obviously a retard like yourself won't admit you're wrong.

That's not even slightly an answer. I asked why does ego matter and your response amounts to saying they're doing it for ego instead of for the readers,


Yes that is an answer you retard.

I stated LetItGo wasn't doing translating chapters for the enjoyment of their fans, but for their ego. This part is talking about their motive.

If they want to do it for their ego, then they can keep their translations on their own website instead of baiting others on MD. This part talks about "why does ego matter"

The fact you can't comprehend me answering your question really shows your lack of education.

Doesn't matter whatsoever if you're speaking generally, you're complaining about me calling myself neutral on the topic of Letitgo, when I did it in a VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. If you want to complain about something outside of that specific meaning, or imply that I'm incorrect about that specific meaning or whatever, or drag it into a broader general meaning when that's not what I originally meant, then you can fuck right off.


Let me quote myself again since you lack the ability to read.

We are talking about this discussion specifically, not in general, where you're defending LetItGo at every turn which is why I called you biased and not neutral.


and then tried to censor them by telling them that they're not allowed to host their translations on this public site for translations.


Quote where I said, "LetItGo shouldn't be allowed to host their translations on here.", I will wait.

Does that allow the option to refuse?


YES. They can simply ignore my suggestion which they have already shown they will along with you sucking their cock when they said so.

The fact your first criteria for what constitutes a demand is wrong, just proves you don't know what a demand is LOL.

Is it insisting on immediate attention or obedience?


Nice job at making up bullshit to define demand. That isn't how the English language works.

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I was wondering why this chapter has so many comments since it was already released, check and its just of dumbasses arguing on the internet. kekeke 🀣🀣🀣
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@shii
That was a suggestion you retard, learn the difference between a suggestion and a demand why don't you?

Telling somebody to do X is a command, commanding somebody to do something that would give you something you want is a demand, as in you are demanding that thing from that person.
A suggestion reads along the lines of "I think it would be a better use of your time if you worked on more recent chapters instead." and generally aren't insulting.
That's very clearly not what you did at all, you told him directly to work on the more recent chapters instead (followed by an insult), which is a command / demand as it would give you the latest chapter to read.

I already answered this reduntant question, why am I not surprised you didn't realize that when you been running yourself in a circle for days.

That's not even slightly an answer. I asked why does ego matter and your response amounts to saying they're doing it for ego instead of for the readers, and then tried to censor them by telling them that they're not allowed to host their translations on this public site for translations.
Never mind that some people want to read chapters in higher quality and awootism is basically a speed scan group, fuck people who want quality because you said so.

Let me repeat myself since you still want to repeat the same damn thing over and over.

Doesn't matter whatsoever if you're speaking generally, you're complaining about me calling myself neutral on the topic of Letitgo, when I did it in a VERY SPECIFIC MEANING. If you want to complain about something outside of that specific meaning, or imply that I'm incorrect about that specific meaning or whatever, or drag it into a broader general meaning when that's not what I originally meant, then you can fuck right off.

A suggestion =/= a demand

See above, that was no suggestion.

Did my suggestion fit the definition of demand? No.

The one you just invented that apparently requires a threat as well to qualify as a demand or the real definition? It fits the real description at least. Let's look at your comment:
Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you retarded fucks.

Suggestions start with things like "Perhaps you should spend your time doing"
Demands start with things like "Devote your time to doing"
You didn't leave any sort of 'maybe' or option to your """"""suggestion"""""" at all, you told him to do X which was not open to appeal or challenge, which is a demand as stated by the dictionary definition of the word.
Demand: an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right.
To break it down further:
insistent: insisting on or demanding something; not allowing refusal.
peremptory: insisting on immediate attention or obedience, especially in a brusquely imperious way
Now let's re-review what you said:
Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you retarded fucks.

Does that allow the option to refuse? Is it insisting on immediate attention or obedience? Was it done in a brusquely imperious (basically rude and arrogant) way?
On all levels, it fits the definition of a demand to a T.
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@Amplify

Someone saying "Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters" = a demand? Holy fucking hell you're confirmed retarded at this point. That was a suggestion you retard, learn the difference between a suggestion and a demand why don't you?

"How exactly do their motives for working on the project matter whatsoever? How exactly would it matter if it was for ego or anything else?"


I already answered this reduntant question, why am I not surprised you didn't realize that when you been running yourself in a circle for days.



I am not biased to the people of "Letitgo", as in I do not personally know them at all or have any connection to me, I am neutral on the topic of them compared to any other scanlation group on earth, I neither like nor dislike them at all which is what I originally meant when I said I was neutral on the topic of Letitgo.


Let me repeat myself since you still want to repeat the same damn thing over and over.

Who cares if you would had said the same to any group in the same position? We are talking about this discussion specifically, not in general, where you're defending LetItGo at every turn which is why I called you biased and not neutral. If you were neutral in this discussion we wouldn't be talking to each other know since you would had ignored our comments like everyone else who told LetItGo to ignore the whiners or told those who're whining to shut up.

You are literally the only person still wasting their time wanting to argue with two people who said something negative about what LetItGo did, for what exactly?


Did that sink into your peanut sized brain now?

In the hopes of there being two fewer stupid people on earth soon after. I guess that failed.


If you wanted to reduce the number of stupid people on this planet, you be better off killing yourself since that's much much easier. Guess that failed huh.

Over your demands*


A suggestion =/= a demand

A demand would be "LetItGo, start translating new chapters or I won't read your translation anymore."

Actually lets look at the definition of demand

an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right.


Did my suggestion fit the definition of demand? No.

Let's look up the definition of a suggestion.

an idea or plan put forward for consideration.


Well damn look at that...my suggestion is definitely a idea which LetItGo can consider isn't it?

You dumbfuck.
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@Yautja
The central point of your entire argument from the start boils down to:
Three months is a long enough period of time to wait before poaching a manga project unannounced.

Before anything else you must prove that this is the case, that there is some sort of internationally agreed upon standard for all groups that "three months" makes a project fair game. If you cannot do that or show where you pulled the time frame of specifically "three months" and what you're basing it on, then the linchpin you're building your entire house of cards of an argument upon crumbles into dust along with it.
If you cannot do that, then this is my very last post giving you any attention.

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@shii
That wasn't the question you asked, do I need to quote your words you lying piece of shit?



Please quote the demand I made. I'll wait.



We are talking about this discussion specifically, not in general

As I've repeatedly tried to hammer into your skull:
I am not biased to the people of "Letitgo", as in I do not personally know them at all or have any connection to me, I am neutral on the topic of them compared to any other scanlation group on earth, I neither like nor dislike them at all which is what I originally meant when I said I was neutral on the topic of Letitgo.

I do however support scanlators who are working hard simply by default, especially against complainers and leechers. If you had attacked Hesitation Scanlations for working on older chapters of "The New Gate" as they are doing exactly the same thing as Letitgo over there, or Helvetica Scans for doing the same with "Boku Girl", or any one of the many scanlation groups who do the same thing of working sequentially instead of simply jumping to the latest chapter, I'd do exactly the same thing. I would support them because of WHAT they are, not because of WHO they are.
Is this sinking in yet?

for what exactly?

In the hopes of there being two fewer stupid people on earth soon after. I guess that failed.

You literally started this whole shit with me and Yarjuta because you got so triggered over us voicing our opinions.

Over your demands*

Quote where I made a demand like I said before. I'll wait.

Refer to the above picture.

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@Amplify CEO of Dumbass Incorporated
I think I'm just going to boil my future replies to you down to "stop dodging the question", since that's more or less all you're doing anyway and have been doing for half a week now.

Says the guy who hasn't answered A SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. And runs away any time he's proven wrong by requesting absurd information or rejecting previously presented information.

Still haven't had the balls to answer a single one of my questions, bitch.

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@Amplify

To repeat the dodged question:
"How exactly do their motives for working on the project matter whatsoever? How exactly would it matter if it was for ego or anything else?"


That wasn't the question you asked, do I need to quote your words you lying piece of shit?

Okay, please show me the direct quote from them that states exactly "We are doing it for our own ego", in those words.


The problem here is that you're making demands of the translator that you expect him to capitulate to.


Please quote the demand I made. I'll wait.

If you don't answer my question, I don't have to answer yours. I asked first.


Lol, what kind of middle school retort is this honestly.

How is that specific to them? I would have said the same to any group in the same position. I'm biased to scanlators, and against leechers, not "Letitgo".


Who cares if you would had said the same to any group in the same position? We are talking about this discussion specifically, not in general, where you're defending LetItGo at every turn which is why I called you biased and not neutral. If you were neutral in this discussion we wouldn't be talking to each other know since you would had ignored our comments like everyone else who told LetItGo to ignore the whiners or told those who're whining to shut up.

You are literally the only person still wasting their time wanting to argue with two people who said something negative about what LetItGo did, for what exactly?

Then there's no problem and you're making one where none exists.


HOLY HELL! You lack so much self-awareness to say this.

You literally started this whole shit with me and Yarjuta because you got so triggered over us voicing our opinions.

Anyone can voice their opinion, no matter what it is, are you going to start a meaningless argument with anyone who express a opinion you don't like over something which doesn't personally affect you in any matter,shape, or form? Cause if you are then seriously seek mental help.

You're not complaining, you're making demands you stupid sack of shit.


Quote where I made a demand like I said before. I'll wait.

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@shii
Tag the person if you're going to say something.

Until you pointed it out now I didn't realise I hadn't done so. Wondered what was taking you so long considering I replied right after you.

I did you moron.

To repeat the dodged question:
"How exactly do their motives for working on the project matter whatsoever? How exactly would it matter if it was for ego or anything else?"

Everyone and anyone has the right to complain about something you retard.

The problem here is that you're making demands of the translator that you expect him to capitulate to.

I answered your question with a question, which you're now avoiding.

If you don't answer my question, I don't have to answer yours. I asked first.

The fact no other group did means that Last Inning was unpopular and not worth their trouble.

Which is a 100% unrelated tangent. The popularity of the series has no bearing on the fact that it was the last series I worked on.

Here a example of you kissing LetItGo's ass though

How is that specific to them? I would have said the same to any group in the same position. I'm biased to scanlators, and against leechers, not "Letitgo".

I already read awootism's version LOL. Everyone has, it has been out for months before this one alerted us to a chapter which has already been out.

Then there's no problem and you're making one where none exists.

GUESS WHAT? I can complain about anything I want, whenever I want.

You're not complaining, you're making demands you stupid sack of shit.

I think I'm just going to boil my future replies to you down to "stop dodging the question", since that's more or less all you're doing anyway and have been doing for half a week now.
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@Amplify

Tag the person if you're going to say something. Don't be a pussy. No wonder why I didn't get a notification from you in the last day or so with how autistic you have been in replying.

I asked you a main question and made it very clear, answer it.


I did you moron.

I'm telling you that you don't have the right to complain


Everyone and anyone has the right to complain about something you retard. Use logic or shut up.

Which is dodging the question. Answer it, don't avoid it.


I answered your question with a question, which you're now avoiding. LOL, love how stupid you are.

Which is a lie, I already explained the reason several times.


It is not a lie to say no other group wanted to pick up Last Inning because it was unpopular LOL. If Last Inning was popular then another group would had picked it up and continued where your group left off. The fact no other group did means that Last Inning was unpopular and not worth their trouble. You not the only cleaner in the world LOL.

You are not free to have any scanlator take you complaints seriously or capitulate to your demands like you're expecting, that's the problem.


I don't care if the scanlator don't take my complaints serious LOL. If I wanted them to take my complaints serious I would visit their discord to complain. You seem to be the ONLY ONE taking my complaints more serious than they are with how long you have involved yourself in this comment thread. You act like my complaints were against you with how sensitive you reacted.

Show me one piece of evidence that I am biased specifically in the favour of Letitgo, I'm still waiting. I would have done the same for any group on earth in the same position.


Here a example of you kissing LetItGo's ass though

I mean, if you want to wait 3 months before releasing the next chapter just so as to piss off the leeches who seem to have taken it upon themselves to designate an acceptable time frame for your group to post new chapters in (and then get annoyed if you don't meet their arbitrary and poorly defined targets), I would personally 120% understand. I've no shortage of other things to read and do, and honestly seeing his frustration is possibly even better than a new chapter anyway imo.


So go and read awootism's version
I already read awootism's version LOL. Everyone has, it has been out for months before this one alerted us to a chapter which has already been out.

without complaining about this one. Simple.


GUESS WHAT? I can complain about anything I want, whenever I want. This is a public forum which allows people to do that LOL.

You know what you can do? IGNORE THOSE WHO COMPLAIN. Simple right?

Like jesus christ, I'm not surprised you stopped translating for Last Inning if you act like this when someone voices a complaint about somebody you have "no bias" towards and has NOTHING to do with you.

Maybe when you're older you will learn that people will say things which you disagree with and you will not have to take it to heart and ignore them. Because damn if you get this worked up over someone telling other group's to stop translating chapters of a manga that have been out for months, I can't imagine how you are in real life when someone complains about something you do.

I thought maybe I could get you to grow the fuck up, guess not.


You literally told 2 people to kill themselves for voicing a different opinion. You really think you're in any position to try and mentor anybody??? This is fucking laughable.

You're the only person who needs to grow the fuck up and learn to IGNORE PEOPLE OPINIONS THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH and not get into an argument with them when it has nothing to do with you. Especially when the group you're sucking off don't pay them no mind and has stopped responding to their comments days ago.

So yet again, what do you hope to gain from continuing to talk with me and @Yautja when GoderKhang or whatever his name isn't paying this thread any attention???

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@Amplify
How about you show proof about literally anything you claim and that I've called you out on? You clearly know jack shit about what you're speaking of; ask translators, ask groups, look at Baka. It's not a written rule anywhere you moron. This isn't a bureaucracy with a rule book. It's a commonly accepted normality. But, to humor your stupidity, how about we look at baka again; After 6 months a group is marked as inactive, so logically, a series would surely be marked as dead after 6 months as well. We can clearly discard your bullshit 1 year claim. However, if it takes 6 months to mark a series as dead, how long should we take to mark a series dead? Some series are updated on a monthly or bimonthly basis, so 1 or 2 months is a bit short in specific cases. On a currently publishing series it can be translated anywhere between the day of it's release to a week or two later. For most series being translated, that are completed or have multiple chapters out, they're released on a weekly basis. Some translations are irregular, but most follow a weekly schedule. 3 months is more than reasonable. 1 Year is clearly bullshit. Every time myself or Shi have effectively cornered you, you run away by moving the goal posts, with a reductio ad absurdum or a generic fallacy by making ridiculous requests for absurdly specific instances.

And come on bitch, accept my challenge. How many series have LetItGo picked up which had been updated less a year, and or 3 months ago. You're the one who said 1 year, not me. Come on, answer. Prove yourself a hypocrite.

And how about you acknowledge
1: You claiming 80 days is barely 2 months.
2: You claiming 92 days isn't 3 months.
3: You claiming 1 year is not long enough to consider a translation dead
Where's your corroboration on that bullshit one year claim? I guess unless you can show me that, you're wasting my time and I have nothing more to say to you.

Also, why don't you explain why Group A need group B's permission to translate something group B is (or isn't in this case) translating. How about you explain why people don't have the right to complain about fan translated manga? And how about you explain your "Unless you suddenly get something worth replying to, I'm not going to bother again." This is the second time you've responded after making that stupid comment to pretend as if you said anything remotely true.

What a fucking child, you refuse to provide any evidence or reasoning for your bullshit claims by screeching that the multiple pieces of evidence given to you aren't good enough. You're basically a conspiracy theorist who thinks the world is flat and won't accept the millions of pictures.

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I posted multiple comments which implied he is. Stop being a retard and read those comments instead of placing your hands over your ears and going "LALALALA, He didn't use the word EGO, so you're wrong! LALALA" like a 3-year old.

I asked you a main question and made it very clear, answer it.

Yeah telling others not to complain isn't trying to censor anyone?

I'm telling you that you don't have the right to complain and that you're being retarded. I'm not preventing you from doing it, I'm advising you shouldn't do it.

The moment you said no, then I told you to what?

I patiently explained "so what" in small words for your benefit already, you just ignored that part.

And I asked you, what are you hoping to achieve trying to censor someone opinion about what LetItGo does?

Which is dodging the question. Answer it, don't avoid it.

where I remarked that Last Inning got dropped by groups because it wasn't popular even during the years when it had thousand of views.

Which is a lie, I already explained the reason several times.

That is room for enough criticism right there.

No, it is not.
Is it room to criticize an artist for doing fanart of a character that somebody else has already drawn fanart of? Of course not, they are simply doing their own version of it.
Is it room to criticize a scanlator for translating a chapter that somebody else has already translated? Of course not, they are simply doing their own version of it.

I'm free to criticize or say what the fuck I want on here no matter what.

You are not free to have any scanlator take you complaints seriously or capitulate to your demands like you're expecting, that's the problem.

You continuing to respond and defend LetItGo going on 4 days now is enough evidence of you not being neutral!

Show me one piece of evidence that I am biased specifically in the favour of Letitgo, I'm still waiting. I would have done the same for any group on earth in the same position.

You think you're going to change my mind and get an apology from me that LetItGo should do what they want? Cause you won't.

I thought maybe I could get you to grow the fuck up, guess not.

LetItGo isn't the only group which is translating this manga, so this isn't an issue of "beggars cannont be choosers", this is an issue of a dumbass group uploading chapters of a manga months after another group already done it.

So go and read awootism's version without complaining about this one. Simple.
You are trying to get Letitgo to translate a later chapter instead of making their own version which is being a "choosy beggar", go get awootism to do it if you want to read their version.

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@Amplify

You keep saying he's doing it for his own ego, when he has not once said he's doing it for his own ego.


I posted multiple comments which implied he is. Stop being a retard and read those comments instead of placing your hands over your ears and going "LALALALA, He didn't use the word EGO, so you're wrong! LALALA" like a 3-year old.

This is what I meant by you moving the goalposts in my previous comment.

Show me where I have physically prevented you from making a post, or deleted your posts, or anything like that. If that's not what you are saying, then how exactly have I "censored" you?


Yeah telling others not to complain isn't trying to censor anyone? LMFAO. Now you're trying to move the goalposts yet again.

You asked if I was part of the group Letitgo, I said no


I did ask you if you were part of LetItGo, you said no. The moment you said no, then I told you to what? Shut the fuck up defending them so much. You have no skin in this argument, yet you continued to involve yourself in this discussion for 3-4 days for what reason?

I asked what it was you were hoping to achieve with your childish bitching at Letitgo scans for translating this chapter.


And I asked you, what are you hoping to achieve trying to censor someone opinion about what LetItGo does? Which is when you brought up your stupid past as a cleaner in Last Inning and where I remarked that Last Inning got dropped by groups because it wasn't popular even during the years when it had thousand of views.

I'm calling you retards out for being fucking stupid attacking a group for no reason when you have zero rights to do so,


1. LetItGo uploaded a chapter of a chapter which has been out for months. That is room for enough criticism right there.

2. Zero rights? YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER. THIS IS A PUBLIC CHAT BOARD. I'm free to criticize or say what the fuck I want on here no matter what.

Now you can argue that I don't have the qualifications, but guess what? I don't have to be a pilot to know when I see a crashed plane that the pilot fucked up.

Show me one time that I've said that Letitgo is great, or praised them, or anything that wasn't neutral and objective and I wouldn't have said about almost any other group in exactly the same position and circumstances. I'm waiting.


LOL. You continuing to respond and defend LetItGo going on 4 days now is enough evidence of you not being neutral! You have been sucking LetItGo's cock from Day 1 of when their chapter was released, defending them uploading the chapter and telling others to stop bitching. Now it's Day 4-5 of this chapter being released and you're still defending them.

Like fucking honestly, what do you expect to come from you continuing this argument? You think you're going to change my mind and get an apology from me that LetItGo should do what they want? Cause you won't.

Here is the crux of what I'm saying:
BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS


You must have down syndrome to be this retard and using that saying completely wrong in the context of this whole argument.

LetItGo isn't the only group which is translating this manga, so this isn't an issue of "beggars cannont be choosers", this is an issue of a dumbass group uploading chapters of a manga months after another group already done it.

If LetItGo was the only group which was translating this manga and took months to upload each chapter, then I would have no problem with that because they're the only group doing it, but that isn't the case now is it?

You don't even have the basic decency to remember the old phrase "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".


And don't you dare get on your moral high horse. You told 2 people to kill themselves because of them expressing their opinion on a manga.

Here it is incase you forgot!

-Yautja: -neednolife:
End your worthless existences. Stop breathing my oxygen, thanks.


You can seriously eat a dick if you dare want to pretend you have any basic decency you basement dwelling retard.

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@Yautja
Please show me where it states that the internationally accepted standard which everyone has agreed to for a project being dead and it being fair game to anybody else without a word to the previous translator, is exactly three months.
Until you can show me that, you're wasting my time and I have nothing more to say to you. You've made that claim repeatedly since the start, it shouldn't be difficult for you right?


@shii
His comments boil down to "We doing this for our own satisfaction/ego".

You keep saying he's doing it for his own ego, when he has not once said he's doing it for his own ego. Your definition of "ego" appears to be "whatever the fuck you want it to be", and there's one bigger problem with it:
How exactly do their motives for working on the project matter whatsoever? How exactly would it matter if it was for ego or anything else?

You've been hammering away at 'ego ego ego' as if it matters somehow what their motivation for translation is, but if you've defined why it's a problem somewhere then I must have missed it.

Yeah you are. You been in this discussion for days kissing ass and telling others to stop bitching. Fuck off you dishonest piece of shit.

Show me where I have physically prevented you from making a post, or deleted your posts, or anything like that. If that's not what you are saying, then how exactly have I "censored" you?
You're just dodging the question as I expected.

You brought it up first! LMFAO. Love how you want to call it unrelated the moment I burst your argument into pieces by using common logic.

I mentioned the name of the last manga I worked on, simply to prove I used to do scanlation as a hobby and help out years ago instead of having you simply take my word for it, as well as also showing you exactly where the dark road you insist on walking down leads to with a practical example.

The original argument that you've dodged and probably forgotten by now, to restate where it was at:
You asked if I was part of the group Letitgo, I said no I was not part of that group specifically but I have been in the scanlation community for a number of years (in other words I'm not an outsider like you, I understand the processes and motivations involved, etc), and I asked what it was you were hoping to achieve with your childish bitching at Letitgo scans for translating this chapter.

You have dodged that question for two days now. How exactly is the number of views on the final series I worked on before quitting in any way related to that question? It's not, that's the answer to that.

LMAO, how are you neutral in this yet going on day what?

I'm calling you retards out for being fucking stupid attacking a group for no reason when you have zero rights to do so, I'm not saying that Letitgo is the greatest group ever or anything like that. Show me one time that I've said that Letitgo is great, or praised them, or anything that wasn't neutral and objective and I wouldn't have said about almost any other group in exactly the same position and circumstances. I'm waiting.

Don't piss off your viewers will dumb bullshit or it will come back to bite you in the ass.

Please do what you should have done 4 days ago and answer the question:
"Why exactly should they care about you?"

They are not doing it to please you, you're not paying for a service or anything like that, you're the virtual equivalent of a window shopper. You don't even have the basic decency to remember the old phrase "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".

You seem to have this massive ego problem, where you think that scanlators are doing everything specifically for you to provide you with free entertainment in a fast enough time frame to satisfy your needs, and if you don't like the work they do for any reason that you have some sort of god given right to scream and cry at them about it until you get your way.

It's extremely twisted thinking and completely untrue. You don't get to whine and cry at a scanlator for not translating the manga chapter you want them to do any more than you get to cry at an artist for not drawing the things you wanted them to draw or any other free goods or services not being exactly to your specifications.

Here is the crux of what I'm saying and have been saying from the very start:
BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS

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@Amplify

So in other words he never said the word you keep chanting over and over like some sort of religion mantra, got it.


His comments boil down to "We doing this for our own satisfaction/ego". Anyone who passed a basic high school reading/language class would be able to intercept his comments as such. But hey! If he didn't say "We doing this for our own ego" then all the other stuff he said about trying to keep a promise, this manga is "their turf", and how skipping manga feels wrong and screws with them being neat then it doesn't count!

What a pathetic attempt at trying to move the goalposts.

I'm not,


Yeah you are. You been in this discussion for days kissing ass and telling others to stop bitching. Fuck off you dishonest piece of shit.

Which is a completely unrelated tangent unrelated whatsoever to the current discussion, so try to get back to the topic, yeah?


You brought it up first! LMFAO. Love how you want to call it unrelated the moment I burst your argument into pieces by using common logic.

(just as I am neutral about Letitgo)


LMAO, how are you neutral in this yet going on day what? Day 3 or 4, swallowing LetItGo/CatScans' cock telling people to stop bitching about them uploading an old chapter that has been out for months? LOL, that's not being neutral you dumbfuck.

So what? You going to try and claim that Letitgo scans are only doing this for the money and only releasing chapters when they get enough donations or something?


Why am I not surprised that you completely missed the point of me bringing up TrashScanlations drama.

I will say it very simple so you will understand.

Don't piss off your viewers will dumb bullshit or it will come back to bite you in the ass.

Is that simple enough because if I have to dumb it down anymore, I will need to speak to your parents.

But damn am I amazed at you keeping this going on even when that GodricKharg dude has stopped paying attention to this thread. You really dedicated to ass-kissing. Kudos.
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@Amplify
Pray tell, why should I waste my time when all you do is the gish gallop and repeat the same rambling bullshit in slightly different ways with no logic or cohesion behind it? It wouldn't make a difference if I repeated it at you another fifty times, you would never learn from it and simply declare a hollow victory from everyone else giving up on you. Have fun with that.

Now that's some irony if I've ever seen any. If anyone should be saying that it's me; I've substantiated my claims with logic and past occurrences. Something you surely can't say. The most recent accounts would be:
1: You claiming 80 days is barely 2 months.
2: You claiming 92 days isn't 3 months.
3: You claiming 1 year is not long enough to consider a translation dead
And many more, mostly among your absurd claims that Group A need group B's permission to translate something group B is (or isn't in this case) translating, people don't have the to right to complain, and many more opinion based inanities for your ridiculous claims which often are a response to try and deflect from the fact that I dissected and disarmed your patently insane ramblings or you running away from my challenge. Which I will reiterate; How many series have LetItGo picked up which had been updated less than not only a year, but 3 months ago.

And I thought "Unless you suddenly get something worth replying to, I'm not going to bother again." Clearly I've said something worthwhile, or the more likely case, you're just full of shit and my translation was accurate.

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@shii:
Re-read my comment. I already quoted parts of the other guy's comment where his ego showed and why they continue to release manga chapters even if they're months behind.

So in other words he never said the word you keep chanting over and over like some sort of religion mantra, got it.

Tell me what do you hope to achieve trying to censor other people opinion's? I'm genuinely curious.

I'm not, I'm calling you a fucking retard for being retarded, not preventing you from being retarded.
You're just dodging the question as I expected.

If the manga was popular it would had been picked up by someone else and translated you idiot.

Which is a completely unrelated tangent unrelated whatsoever to the current discussion, so try to get back to the topic, yeah?

Look up Trash Scanlations and the drama which happened with Peerless Dad on this website.

I know of them, and while I'm neutral on the topic of Trashscans (just as I am neutral about Letitgo) I'm completely against no-group's piss poor handling of the situation. So what? You going to try and claim that Letitgo scans are only doing this for the money and only releasing chapters when they get enough donations or something? Because if not then that doesn't apply here at all. Letitgo would only be releasing the latest chapter in the hopes of donations if they were greedy, wheras a simple look at the chapter listing shows they've done each chapter in turn at a pretty steady rate of one per month from the second release onwards.

@Yautja:
Translation: I lost this argument so I'm going to pretend like I won and maybe everyone will be stupid enough to believe that to be the case.

Pray tell, why should I waste my time when all you do is the gish gallop and repeat the same rambling bullshit in slightly different ways with no logic or cohesion behind it? It wouldn't make a difference if I repeated it at you another fifty times, you would never learn from it and simply declare a hollow victory from everyone else giving up on you. Have fun with that.

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@Amplify
Okay. So what?
You dipshits shouldn't have been complaining in the first place, and really awootism shouldn't have randomly jumped in unannounced to do the series and then there would have been no complaints by you guys. Letitgo scans are not making a demand here, they're not saying awootism have to do X or making any sort of demand, they're saying that if they had asked them to join in or something that would have saved a lot of problems. Care to stop deepthroating awootism for a minute here?

Yea, and I already told you we can complain about whatever the fuck we want to. It's our fucking right. If I'm deep throating awootism, you've fucking eaten LetItGo scans whole. I already told you why awootism had every damn right to translate that shit "unannouced". The translation was dead. Period. And obviously this dumbass was, he literally said awootism should have asked permission and then blamed them for all the angry comments. That's a demand genius. And I already told you why you wouldn't fucking bother asking permission to translate something that A) Doesn't belong to Moron Incorporated over there B) Hasn't been translated in 3 months and C) Isn't an action that requires permission.

To repeat myself yet again, you don't get to decide that three months = automatically dead series and free game for poaching. There's hundreds of groups that go at a slow but steady pace, many are even slower than one chapter every three months. Besides, awootism didn't wait three months to jump in, they barely waited for two.
Lastly here's a newsflash for you: Two groups working on one project as a joint does not equal 2x as fast releases at all. The quickest translations come from one or two guys with too much time on their hands going at a series with all their free time, a larger group or multiple groups working on something just means the releases are fairly consistent and steady - not fast.

I didn't decide shit, 3 months has been the standard for over a decade. And look at your fucking arrogance. "Poaching" as if they have any right to a translation or fucking lose something if another group translates shit. Yea, slow and steady isn't 3 months. There's a reason those kind of translations die and other groups pick them up, exactly like this case, strange isn't it? Slow and steady is a few weeks to a month of their last upload / newest chapter. Not 3 fucking months. And barely 2 months? Clearly you don't know how to fucking count.
3/27/18 LetItGo / One Time / CAT
6/14/18 awootism
That's 80 days. Pretty much 3 fuckin months. Then these geniuses finally started uploading, already translated chapters, on 6/26/18, 92 days after their last upload, so yea, 3 fucking months.

You have zero validity, and the rest of your long rambling paragraph has exactly zero substance to it.

Fucking hell, I really feel like I've wasted my time replying to you on this one. Unless you suddenly get something worth replying to, I'm not going to bother again.

Translation: I lost this argument so I'm going to pretend like I won and maybe everyone will be stupid enough to believe that to be the case.

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@Amplify

Okay, please show me the direct quote from them that states exactly "We are doing it for our own ego", in those words.


Re-read my comment. I already quoted parts of the other guy's comment where his ego showed and why they continue to release manga chapters even if they're months behind.

What exactly do you hope to achieve in this exercise in stupidity? I'm genuinely curious.


Tell me what do you hope to achieve trying to censor other people opinion's? I'm genuinely curious.

Yes, because it's been dead for going on half a decade now so people have slowly forgotten about it. It used to have thousands of views on Batoto. Way to miss the point spectacularly though, you couldn't have done that any harder if you tried.


Good job on missing the point yourself. If the manga was popular it would had been picked up by someone else and translated you idiot. The fact nobody has done so, even at it's high point shows that the manga wasn't popular.

PS: A manga having just a thousand of views isn't consider "popular" either, especially when manga like this exceed 10k.

That was simply the last of the manga projects I worked on, the point is that nothing good ever comes out of biting the hand that feeds you


TL;DR: Don't pull BS stunts which upset the readers

Look up Trash Scanlations and the drama which happened with Peerless Dad on this website.

I will give you a quick rundown about what happened though incase you're too lazy to look it up.

TS was sniped by an anonymous group(No Group) and accused of intentionally slowing down their releases to get viewers to donate for faster releases.

No Group, the group which sniped them, argued that TS didn't need donations to release series and showed it by releasing chapter after chapter of Peerless Dad in a rapid fashion.

TS hit back with that the anonymous group was unqualified to handle PeerlessDad and continued with translating the manga at the rate which they were doing(Sounds a bit familiar to LetItGo/CatScans situation doesn't it? But I disgress.), but dodged the accusations about them intentionally slowing down their release of PD for moneygrabbing.

Soon enough it comes out that TS was launching a new website hosting their scanlations where viewers had to pay diamonds for early releases or something similar, which proved No Group's accusation right about TS placing paywalls on their releases while public speaking out against paywalls.

When the above happened, people turned hard against TS for their bullshit and since then, they haven't uploaded a single chapter of PD to this website which resulted in another group picking it up due to some rivalry between the two of them.

This reddit thread has a breakdown of what happened also, along with informational comments :https://redd.it/9kapsu

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@shii:
They doing it for their own ego which their PR guy has repeatedly stated in the comments of this manga.

Okay, please show me the direct quote from them that states exactly "We are doing it for our own ego", in those words.

LetItGo/CatScans can put up old chapters of a manga because it's a public site, yet I can't criticism them for doing so? Yeah the fuck I can for the exact same reason. IT'S A PUBLIC SITE.

What exactly do you hope to achieve in this exercise in stupidity? I'm genuinely curious.

Just look at the chapter views of that manga on this website shows that it has less than 100 views on most of it's chapters.

Yes, because it's been dead for going on half a decade now so people have slowly forgotten about it. It used to have thousands of views on Batoto. Way to miss the point spectacularly though, you couldn't have done that any harder if you tried. That was simply the last of the manga projects I worked on, the point is that nothing good ever comes out of biting the hand that feeds you.
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@Amplify

Then like I said, your argument is utterly invalid, as we are speaking about this groups motives, not "in general".
This is not hard to grasp. It shouldn't be, at least.


LetItGo/CatScans motive for releasing chapters are quite clear you retard. They doing it for their own ego which their PR guy has repeatedly stated in the comments of this manga. You're the only idiot in this discussion who doesn't see it because you have their cock to far down their throat.

EDIT:And just so we clear, let me go ahead and point out why LetItGo/CatScans are translating this manga, even when being months behind.

All of these quotes are pulled from GodricKharg's comment on page 3

I had already made a promise to Teras the owner of OTS to continue it.


I’m the type of person who could give a crap about what another group is doing. To me it’s “my turf” and as long as the translator is willing to give me a script, I’ll not waste their efforts.


Even if we did try to jump the queue to a chapter not yet released, I dunno, call it ocd for me... I’d have this feeling of not having completed the job properly if I skipped a chapter that was “under my watch”.


This is a public site for scanlators to upload their translations on, you don't get to be the arbiter and decide that these guys cannot upload their version here solely on the basis that some LQ group jumped in and randomly did two chapters.


What retard logic.

LetItGo/CatScans can put up old chapters of a manga because it's a public site, yet I can't criticism them for doing so? Yeah the fuck I can for the exact same reason. IT'S A PUBLIC SITE.

As for the "LQ" group you're mentioning, they did more than 2 chapters. They jumped in at Ch. 40 and been doing this manga since then with their translation improving over time. So let's speak facts.

No


So if you don't work with LetItGo/CatScans, guess what? Eat shit and shut the fuck up when someone decides to criticize them for bullshit. I don't give a single ounce about your past background in another group's scene or why you quit.

the last series I used to work on (Last Inning) has been dead now since 2014 because they never found a new cleaner for it.


That manga series is dead because people don't give a shit about it LOL . Just look at the chapter views of that manga on this website shows that it has less than 100 views on most of it's chapters. You think a popular manga series which has a bigger audience would result in the same thing? Hell no, it would get picked up in a heartbeat by another group. But thanks for the laugh, it's hilarious you bringing up your work on this worthless manga as justification to not criticize groups when they pull some BS stunt. Not surprise they would have you on their team when they desperate for anyone to work on that manga.

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@Yautja:
Not like the little cocksucker you were defending was blaming the complaints and issues the commenters have on awootism and said they shouldn't have translated it without permission.

Okay. So what?
You dipshits shouldn't have been complaining in the first place, and really awootism shouldn't have randomly jumped in unannounced to do the series and then there would have been no complaints by you guys. Letitgo scans are not making a demand here, they're not saying awootism have to do X or making any sort of demand, they're saying that if they had asked them to join in or something that would have saved a lot of problems. Care to stop deepthroating awootism for a minute here?

And they released 0 chapters for this series 3 months after their "initial upload" which was a multi group effort. That's an inactive translation. That's a dead translation.

To repeat myself yet again, you don't get to decide that three months = automatically dead series and free game for poaching. There's hundreds of groups that go at a slow but steady pace, many are even slower than one chapter every three months. Besides, awootism didn't wait three months to jump in, they barely waited for two.
Lastly here's a newsflash for you: Two groups working on one project as a joint does not equal 2x as fast releases at all. The quickest translations come from one or two guys with too much time on their hands going at a series with all their free time, a larger group or multiple groups working on something just means the releases are fairly consistent and steady - not fast.

You're also ignoring the the context of the complaint, a valid one in this case

You have zero validity, and the rest of your long rambling paragraph has exactly zero substance to it.

Fucking hell, I really feel like I've wasted my time replying to you on this one. Unless you suddenly get something worth replying to, I'm not going to bother again.
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@Amplify
He can't even be bothered to dignify you with a response, and this is running away? I don't reply to every peon that replies to me either, my time is more valuable than that.

Fantastic excuse to avoid a valid criticism. Only you could be stupid enough to believe I'd accept such a childish excuse. Not like that excuse could be used to literally justify anything and is a common fallacy such as argument from authority. It's literally the exact same variant of excuse Saudi Arabia was using last week. I can't believe anyone would be delusional enough to believe such a claim would be a valid excuse to a valid complaint.

They're not denying it, they're translating the series and making their own version of this chapter and awootism has zero impact either way on their decision to do so, as usual you're full of shit.

Not like the little cocksucker you were defending was blaming the complaints and issues the commenters have on awootism and said they shouldn't have translated it without permission. You're just as delusional and evasive as that moron.

They've released 34 chapters of various things in the last 3 months, that's hardly inactive. As usual, you just lie through your teeth and think that everyone should simply believe you just because.
And they released 0 chapters for this series 3 months after their "initial upload" which was a multi group effort. That's an inactive translation. That's a dead translation. Another red herring. Another fallacy. You're the one who said 1 year is not inactive, Baka Updates and literally the entire community beg to disagree. And come on, accept my challenge, you wanna bet that hypocrite and his group haven't ever pick up and translated something that's been updated less than not only a year, but 3 months from their translation? I know the answer.

I've witnessed retards just like you in action for over a decade now. You whine and cry that the release rate of (insert group here) isn't fast enough for your liking or whatever else, and as a result the group in question either keeps releasing at the same rate or their releases slow down and eventually stop, leaving the series abandoned.
You people are the arbiters of your own destruction, and you're all too stupid to learn that fact. The fuck are you even hoping to achieve with any of this?

Another impressively stupid statement that no one should have to explain. You're also ignoring the the context of the complaint, a valid one in this case, and bringing external, and unrelated opinion based issues here as an excuse to justify your insane beliefs. These morons uploading already translated chapters is not excusable by other morons complaining, sometimes justly, sometimes not, about translation speed in unrelated cases. You're using one injustice to excuse another. Billy over there punching Tommy doesn't give you the right to punch Fred. And what I'm hoping to achieve is to show everyone, hopefully you included, how god damn stupid you and more specifically the translator are being. Though considering almost the entire comment section disagrees with you and has made damn sure you know it and yet you continue with your brazen and patently insane mutterings, it's everso unlikely.

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@Yautja:
You're the dumbass here because as you'll notice, the little prick of a translator who you're blowing so hard wouldn't even acknowledge that fact and ran for the damn hills after I kept prodding it

He can't even be bothered to dignify you with a response, and this is running away? I don't reply to every peon that replies to me either, my time is more valuable than that.
LetItGo doesn't own shit, they don't have any right or reason to deny other people's translations when they themselves aren't translating it

They're not denying it, they're translating the series and making their own version of this chapter and awootism has zero impact either way on their decision to do so, as usual you're full of shit.
Why the fuck would they ask a group who had translated 1 chapter with two other groups and hasn't translated since, for over 3 months, for anything?

They've released 34 chapters of various things in the last 3 months, that's hardly inactive. As usual, you just lie through your teeth and think that everyone should simply believe you just because.
No one should have to explain how goddamn stupid that sentence is. By that logic, LetItGo shouldn't have bothered doing reuploads because they should "shut your mouth and just be happy with whatever chapters of whatever series comes out without complaint". What a goddamn moron you are. How people like Kronix get any hate when there are morons like you around is astounding. How on Earth you could actually say, let alone believe that shit says so much more about you, how insane you are, and what insane what you believe is than I or anyone else ever could.

I've witnessed retards just like you in action for over a decade now. You whine and cry that the release rate of (insert group here) isn't fast enough for your liking or whatever else, and as a result the group in question either keeps releasing at the same rate or their releases slow down and eventually stop, leaving the series abandoned.
You people are the arbiters of your own destruction, and you're all too stupid to learn that fact. The fuck are you even hoping to achieve with any of this?
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@Amplify
Not even a year is enough to assume a project is dead, three months is fucking nothing so cease your childish whinging.

Not like Baka Updates marks a group as inactive after 6 months or that the standard for whether or not a translation is dead has been 3 months for the past decade. You're the dumbass here because as you'll notice, the little prick of a translator who you're blowing so hard wouldn't even acknowledge that fact and ran for the damn hills after I kept prodding it. And like I said, they didn't have to ask for jack shit because as your dumbass said,
The series is not yours, it doesn't harm you in any way, what they do is their own business

LetItGo doesn't own shit, they don't have any right or reason to deny other people's translations when they themselves aren't translating it, and awootism translating it doesn't harm them in any way, and what awootism does is their own damn business. Why the fuck would they ask a group who had translated 1 chapter with two other groups and hasn't translated since, for over 3 months, for anything? You are impressively narcissistic and self righteous. I wonder how many series I could pick from LetItGo's uploads that would conflict with you inane logic. I wonder how many series they picked up which had been updated less than not only a year, but 3 months ago, with out permission from the previous group.

If you had the slightest fucking clue of what is good for you, you would shut your mouth and just be happy with whatever chapters of whatever series comes out without complaint.

No one should have to explain how goddamn stupid that sentence is. By that logic, LetItGo shouldn't have bothered doing reuploads because they should "shut your mouth and just be happy with whatever chapters of whatever series comes out without complaint". What a goddamn moron you are. How people like Kronix get any hate when there are morons like you around is astounding. How on Earth you could actually say, let alone believe that shit says so much more about you, how insane you are, and what insane what you believe is than I or anyone else ever could.

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@shii:
I was speaking in general you dumbfuck so you would understand how stupid that analogy of yours was, and not of LetitGo/CatScan's motives for releasing a old chapter.

Then like I said, your argument is utterly invalid, as we are speaking about this groups motives, not "in general".
This is not hard to grasp. It shouldn't be, at least.

Fuck your "ego" nonsense, they're just doing it because they want to / can do. Maybe they already had the translations half done before the cleaner or whoever else had to take a break for whatever reason, maybe they wanted to do it in higher quality, maybe they just want to do the series one step at a time instead of simply jumping around to appease a few entitled idiots in the comments, it's not your business to go dismissing them as egotistical. This is a public site for scanlators to upload their translations on, you don't get to be the arbiter and decide that these guys cannot upload their version here solely on the basis that some LQ group jumped in and randomly did two chapters.

Are you part of LetitGo/CatScans?

No, but I actively helped with scanlation for other groups years ago for several years, I cleaned several hundred chapters and typesetted / redrew a few dozen. In the end I packed it in and stopped bothering because I was sick of entitled idiots exactly like you throwing bitchfits, the last series I used to work on (Last Inning) has been dead now since 2014 because they never found a new cleaner for it. That is where your retarded complaints land you - with less releases and even the possibility of the series being abandoned after you do everything in your power to get the translators to stop bothering with it. If you had the slightest fucking clue of what is good for you, you would shut your mouth and just be happy with whatever chapters of whatever series comes out without complaint.
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@Amplify

Your entire argument is invalid as you are just assuming their motives entirely, when all evidence (this chapter and the previous one) is to the contrary.


I was speaking in general you dumbfuck so you would understand how stupid that analogy of yours was, and not of LetitGo/CatScan's motives for releasing a old chapter.By the comments in this chapter and the previous by LetitGo/CatScans's representative, it's blatant that LetItGo/CatScans is translating chapters, which has already been done for months, for their own egos and not to make their readers happy. If they want to clap themselves on the back for continuing to work on a manga when they're doing old chapters, then they can keep it on their own website instead of jerking themselves off in public.

The series is not yours, it doesn't harm you in any way, what they do is their own business


The irony of this sentence.

Are you part of LetitGo/CatScans?

Have you worked on this chapter and helped translated it?

NO to both questions? Then take their cocks out of their throats and stop defending them you retard fanboy. Readers are free to express their criticisms of what groups do when they put their work out in the public domain.

NOW, if you don't like what me and others are saying, guess what? Fuck off and go back to LetitGo/CatScans discord and keep sucking them off while you don't have to hear other people opinions.

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@Yautja:
They didn't have to ask you shit, your group hadn't translated it for over 3 months. Which is more than enough time to assume a translation is dead.

Not even a year is enough to assume a project is dead, three months is fucking nothing so cease your childish whinging. There are only three ways to tell if a project is dead or not:
1: The group in question says they are stopping working on it or will stop working on it by X chapter unless somebody offers to help replace a previous staff member who has just quit.
2: The group in question itself is dead.
3: You ask the group if the project is dead and they reply telling you it is dead.
The first two are obviously not true, and awootism sure as fuck didn't try number three, so your argument is invalid. Three months is fucking nothing, delays of that length happen all the time to things like university finals.

@shii:
So you think it's okay for a group to post chapters which has already been translated for months, for their ego? That's some stupid ass logic.

No, I think it's okay for the main group that is actively working on the series to upload chapters for whatever reason it fucking feels like, whether or not anybody else has randomly jumped in with a low quality translation on that particular chapter already. They don't need a reason, they don't need justification, if they want to translate the chapter themselves that is absolutely fine and you have zero ground to complain on. The series is not yours, it doesn't harm you in any way, what they do is their own business, unironically fuck right the hell off and take your entitled whining ass with you.
Playing a game isn't the same as translating a manga, you don't play a game to make others happy

They are not doing it to make others happy, and they sure as fuck are not doing it to make you and your entitled ass happy. They are doing it because they want to, because they like the series. Your entire argument is invalid as you are just assuming their motives entirely, when all evidence (this chapter and the previous one) is to the contrary. Take your egotistical bullshit and ram it up your ass.
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@cherokeemoon Kinda, but Lilia DID seduce him. Also, going by the WN reaction of Lilia, it's been implied that she probably used the fact that Paul raped her against him if he didn't sleep with her. You see, she was repressing her lust that keeps piling up during the 6 years she's cleaning up the room that smells like sex.

Rudeus figured it out and still forgave her since he didn't want to see Lilia and Aisha die. Aisha and Norn's birthdays are in winter from where they live and without Rudeus defending the Lilia and Paul, she'd probably leave the next day after giving birth to Aisha. Travelling in medieval time and in winter while carrying the baby that she just gave birth to, to say nothing of the fact that she'll still be recovering, is potentially fatal for her. This is the reasoning why Lilia is extremely devoted to Rudeus, even raising Aisha to be able to become a lover for him if he wishes to. Heck, she'd even let herself be beaten while begging Prince Pax to spare the captured Rudeus. The manga (and possibly LN) changed it, so I don't count that as spoilers, but that was what happened in the WN.
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@shii
Woah man, there's too much reason there. Calm down, you'll short circuit his peanut. Both him and the translator are a couple of morons who are conflating providing a service out of kindness with an excuse for stroking their ego and moral narcissism.

Somehow they both have the arrogance to believe claiming to translate something, not translating it and subsequently getting upset at someone translating the series up after three months of no updates and then retranslating previously the translated work for their ego is grounds for anger on their part or belief that they were wronged.

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@Amplify

So you think it's okay for a group to post chapters which has already been translated for months, for their ego? That's some stupid ass logic.

You might as well try to tell everyone who plays video games not to bother because somebody else on earth has already beaten that game


And what a retard analogy to go along with your stupid ass logic. Playing a game isn't the same as translating a manga, you don't play a game to make others happy if you aren't a streamer or someone in the professional scene. If you're translating a manga, it's because you want to bring something enjoyable to readers, which is LetItGo/Cat's motive right? Or do they just want to stroke their e-peen, without caring about readers' appreciating their work.Just take a look at the comment section, how many people are praising LetItGo/Cat for translating this manga vs people bitching they got bait-alerted to a chapter which has been out for months?

If LetItGo/CatScans want to waste their time in translating chapters which has been out for months, then they should keep it on their own website and advertise it there, but don't post it on other websites then get upset when people who're looking forward to a new chapter dislike being trolled.

Can take that egoistical bullshit elsewhere.

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@GodricKharg
You didn't read a damn thing. Ask you? They didn't have to ask you shit, your group hadn't translated it for over 3 months. Which is more than enough time to assume a translation is dead. Then they picked it up. After that, after they put out multiple chapters, you started putting out translations. If anyone had to ask for permission, it's your dumbass. You abandoned the project and they picked it up. You also said
So send your complaints to awootism or whomever.

as if the complaints aren't entirely your fault. I think you're ignoring the important part. You said you were going to translate it, you didn't put out any chapters for 3 months, and then act like an entitled child who's toy was taken away after they started translating it and people started bitching at you for uploading translations of already translated chapters. This is why people are bitching. Not only are you reuploading already translated works, you're being a narcissistic, infallible cunt who is seemingly unaware of why people are upset and acting as if you have no blame and couldn't possibly imagine why people would think so.

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@GodricKharg:
I mean, if you want to wait 3 months before releasing the next chapter just so as to piss off the leeches who seem to have taken it upon themselves to designate an acceptable time frame for your group to post new chapters in (and then get annoyed if you don't meet their arbitrary and poorly defined targets), I would personally 120% understand. I've no shortage of other things to read and do, and honestly seeing his frustration is possibly even better than a new chapter anyway imo.
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@Yautja

And here I thought the importent parts was a quality release, acceptable to me and my team.

Where Did I blame the previous translator? The previous group had issues, I made a promise to help them along, to continue the series.

I think your ignoring the important bit dumbass. The fact the others jumped in without asking if they could be of help to move it faster. Nope, not a single word from them.

@amplify it seriously makes me want to troll him on purpose... ah well. I’ll just ignore his useless comments from now on maybe?

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@Yautja:
Good... good.. let the impotent rage flow within you...
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@Amplify
The commenters and your actions seem to agree on who the dumbass is.

@GodricKharg
Good job ignoring the important parts, like how you and your group hadn't translated this series for three months and how you're trying to pass the buck onto the previous translator for your fuck ups. Or how late the reupload is. Or how you could avoid this by uploading these chapters only on your site, or uploading them once you have new chapters. Now I'm certain your little platitude of a comment is just an attempt to mitigate anger from you onto others.

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@Yaitja

Acceptable quality to you maybe, it looks like shit to me.
Font choice, lack of redraws etc.

@Amplify

Thanks. I won’t, and the plan is to continue forward.

And I “do get” the frustration from the readers perspective, I’ve read many a duplicate chapter in the past, from Freezing, Sekirei, to much more refined series as well. Annoying but is it really worth being so aggravated about you piss off the people getting it to you?

Nope.

Actually, it makes me want to go out of my way to troll them...

Not that I want to... ;)

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@Yautja:
Nah, it's just fun to call dipshits like you for what you are.

@GodricKharg:
Don't worry about it, the way some entitled fools here act you'd think that you had personally gone to take a dump in the middle of their living room carpet.

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@Amplify
Thanks for proving my point. You clearly can't see the absolute irony and hypocrisy in your bullshit anger. Notice how multiple commenters are calling you a cunt, but no one is defending you. Makes you wonder just how bad your position is.

@GodricKharg
And you're the source of it.

Upload two chapters at the same time or release your redone chapter solely on your site and not MangaDex until the new chapter is done. There are solutions, you're just not looking.

While your reasoning is all fine and dandy, there's hardly any ground for you to shift blame or complaints to the previous translators, which if anything is pathetic if you ask me, and none of your response alleviates the justified, but overly aggressive in some cases, complaints. You're uploading a redo of a previously done translation which is of perfectly acceptable quality. Maybe yours is better, you have your reasons, but none of that changes or alleviates the grounds for complaints. Especially considering how long ago the original chapter was posted. There's no ground for you to stand on here.

Finally, don't shift blame. You're the one who posted the reupload and trying direct the reasonable irritation of your actions to another translator, who picked up the series because your group had gone 3 months without upload, is just plain dishonest and sad. Your group, for whatever reason, had not uploaded in 3 months, which is the standard amount of time to assume a translation is dead. awootism picked it up, translated and uploaded several chapters. Then you followed suit a couple weeks after their translations had been posted, with reuploads of what they already translated and continued to retranslate posted works while they uploaded new content. These complaints are no one's fault but yours. And if anyone "sniped" a translation, it looks like you did. Your justifications come off as a child complaining that someone took their toy that they no longer interested in up until the point someone else wanted it.
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So much nastiness below.

To put matters straight. It was always supposed to b CATScans or LetItGo taking over the project from it’s the previous one. One Time scans. When one time scans was winding down, the translator for the project went to CATScans, I had already made a promise to Teras the owner of OTS to continue it.

I take my promises seriously, even in scanlation. If I can do something, I will. Not to mention if 75% or more of the work is already done, I’m gonna release it.

Every series has some issues, be it in Proofreading, redraws, Typesetting or translation.

Some people get bent out of shape when a series gets sniped. I don’t, not really, I’ll groan a bit about it... especially when no one contacts me about if WE could use some help moving it out faster. That said, there have been the occasional request in discord (when no one is around to answer).

I’m the type of person who could give a crap about what another group is doing. To me it’s “my turf” and as long as the translator is willing to give me a script, I’ll not waste their efforts.

There is a question about why we wouldn’t just jump forward to chapters not yet done. Well, a couple reasons for this. We still offer old school irc downloads. Yes, I know... outdated maybe... and I really would rather not host another group’s chapters if I can help it. I do it with some of/most of FTH’s, Japanzai’s... Norway’s for various reasons. Series completion for a dead/disbanded group being one... but I digress.

One of the things I hate most as a reader is quality jumping suddenly. Or wait, why can’t I find x groups cX of this or that? Oh, wait, another fn’ group stepped in and did a crap job. It never makes me want to read more of that groups releases.

Even if we did try to jump the queue to a chapter not yet released, I dunno, call it ocd for me... I’d have this feeling of not having completed the job properly if I skipped a chapter that was “under my watch”.

We also tried to skip ahead on at least one other series, had it nearly all typeset and waiting on redraws and another group/single guy dropped the release on us. Kinda demoralizing after rushing to “catch up”. So I’m more of a “do it at my regular pace and say “f-it, do the quality we’re known for”.

I appreciate the kind words from all of you and yes, I’ve got the next chapter in progress. I also have no plans to step down releases of this series or any other as long as I have a script for it. So send your complaints to awootism or whomever.

Damnit, I hate using mag RAWs... they always seem so much “less”.
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@avathar:
Dear lad.
So sad.
Too bad.
Your dad.

@shii:
It's a waste of the groups time to translate and upload a chapter that been up for months and then post it when readers are expecting a new chapter.

You don't get to decide what is an isn't a waste of a group's time, only they do. They're translating because they want to, you're here reading it because you want to, you don't get to decide anything for them and they're not doing it for your praise - they're doing it for themselves and maybe the occasional donation if anyone feels like giving them one.
You might as well try to tell everyone who plays video games not to bother because somebody else on earth has already beaten that game so it's pointless for them to do it too, these guys want to translate each chapter sequentially regardless of if anyone else has already done it or not (as most established translation groups do) and if you don't like that well that's too damned bad.

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@yautja
Couldn't have said it better myself. Was going to say something similar but you did it way better.

@Amplify
You're a massive douche. Just wanted you to read that.
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It never ceases to amaze me that people can't see the irony of bitching about other people bitching. I also fail to see how if a service is free, that it is exempt from criticism and no one has ever given me a compelling reason to believe so. It seems like a childish fallacy or excuse to justify an opinion. It'd be one damn thing if they released the chapter in the same week as the other guys, but a fuckin' month afterwards is just ridiculous. You cunts saying that the translator is providing a service are full of shit. If they were "providing a free service" they'd translate untranslated chapters. Your "free service" is the equivalent of emptying an empty garbage can.

Finally, to jump on the train. @Amplify , hey buddy, go fuck yourself. The moral narcissism and arrogance is astounding. And to throw your words right back at you, these comments complaining about the reupload; It's not aimed specifically at you, it's not meant specifically for you at all, and you have no leg at all with which to stand on as you're just a bystander. Ignore the comment and move on, at least don't be a prick to people for things that don't concern you ffs.
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@Amplify

Nobody is being entitled you idiot.

It's a waste of the groups time to translate and upload a chapter that been up for months and then post it when readers are expecting a new chapter. If the groups who did this chapter,did the new one and posted it, nobody would be calling them out on trolling but praising them for putting in hard work and effort on translating the chapter.
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@Amplify eat bark and choke, this is the equivalent of doing @ everyone] on discord without reason and i dont care if you think i am entitled, all i want is no fucking false positive alerts every time

Maybe if we constantly ping you through @ you will realise what a pain this is

Last edited 20 days ago by avathar.

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@cherokeemoon
His father has made Rudy's life difficult in many ways.
The reaction of everyone in the capital when they find out who his father is, it's clear that he was a major womanizer from word one, and they always assume that Rudy will take after him.
This has not been good for his relations with the powerful.

It even impacts his friends.
The gal who wanted to learn how to cook, so she could cook for Rudy?
The one she asked to teach her wouldn't do it, because the last time he did so, the woman got hooked up with a major loser and he didn't think it would end well; from what was said, I suspect it was Rudy's mother and father, and it actually ended better than the guy though it would, but he was still correct in his evaluation of Rudy's father.
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@Weasalopes why should we get mad at either group? Their both doing a pretty good job!( granted some chapters from either scan are better than the other, but that was bound to happen).

@Amplify this chapter really wasn't specifically aimed at anyone at all. As you said, its free entertainment! Its aimed at anyone that will give it the time of day (in the hopes they will like it and throw a donation or two at it). Either way, free or not, people are gonna criticize stuff. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@neednolife:
That's a very false equivalence, somebody defacing your car is not the same as somebody putting out entertainment that costs you nothing.

You don't care about this chapter as you've read the other guy's scan already? Fine, but you could at least avoid whining about this one. It's not aimed specifically at you, it's not meant specifically for you at all, and you have no leg at all with which to stand on as you're just a bystander. Ignore the chapter and move on, at least don't be a prick to people for things that don't concern you ffs.

@shii: @avathar:
Jesus Christ the entitlement of you people is amazing.

Last edited 21 days ago by Amplify.

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Well how about something different than b*tching about the upload of the chapter, i'm not sure about using "uninvoke" term. I think chantless is more accurate term to use.
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@Weasalopes
The problem is most reader might not notice the difference of translation quality, especially when its been a month from other group's release.
And most reader also will not notice the number of 'new' chapter until they read it, so its kinda understandable if they got disappointed when they realize it same chapter.
Not that i am ungrateful with their (CATscan) hard work. Now that they have catches up, i will stay with CATscan for next chapters.
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44 chapters in and I still hate the father. Wasn't his excuse for cheating being horny or something and unable to fuck because his wife was pregnant. Smh
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Dunno about the rest of you, but I prefer this translation over the previous one, and I wouldn't have seen it if it weren't for it showing up as a "new" release.

So the system is working just fine for me.
Mind, I keep a list of what I've already read, so even before clicking the link I knew it wasn't a chapter I hadn't seen before.

In regard to those desiring they focus on some other manga since another team is also scanlating this?
Scanlations are done for free, they are a labour of love.
So they only work on the Manga that they really want to work on.
Occasionally that results in two teams scanlating the same stuff; deal with it, OK?

ETA: Having looked at the history of posting for this manga, it's the other team that jumped in, this team was doing this manga first.
So, if you want to get mad at anyone, it should be the other group, OK?

Last edited 21 days ago by Weasalopes.

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He is your brother because of your piece of shit father.
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Thank you for your teams work @GodricKharg .
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@Eschaton LOL xD
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Guys, go pester MD stuff about an option to suppress notifications for same chapters instead of blaming LetItGo/CAT for your misplaced excitement.
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Half sister best sister.
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deja vu? heh. guess i should have read the other comments

Last edited 21 days ago by SuperAIDS.

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A Quality work is almost always better than a fast work
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the pig god has spoken. he will die a thousand deaths for desecrating a waifu.

Long live the Waifu Alliance
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I am so sick of this, while yes, while the translators might not be in the wrong to want to share it you know how it pisses people off to no end to get notified about new releases if all we get when we open up the chapter is something we read a month ago, can you fucking stop it :(
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Disappointing but its free work. The more translators contributing to MD, the better.
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@Snowolf
It's not that the translation is not welcomed it's just that the previous one was already out for a month before this one was released and they did a worse job at it than the previous one, so the idea of letting what already exist and focusing on the newer chapters is valid.
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Not that I'm complaining since a translation is a translation and if not for the groups we would not be able to read it but I got happy for a new chapter for nothing T_T.
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Eh, it's nice to know that there are multiple teams working on translating this manga, so the odds of it being left to rot with the mountains of other manga that stopped getting translated are lower.
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@LetItGo/Cat scans

Why do you keep translating chapters which have been out for months? Actually devote your time to doing recent chapters you retarded fucks.
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Got tricked
WHERE IS MY CANDY NOW
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nice, there's a new chapter out there!... oh wait
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A homeless man could take dump on my car, calling it a paint job, is a free service too. Doesn't mean I want it.

But people are correct, they are free to post whatever fits their fancy. However, we are also allowed to respond to it. If they present us with crap we already have, TWICE, then there is going to be a reaction.
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to all self entitled personal, this is a donation driven web page posting free translation that the team do for free, there are ALOT of manga out there that are either tons of chapter loaded or completed go read those while we slowly wait for mushoku to get their translation done, or even better improve your knowledge by learning actual japanese so u can read the raw version. Just be glad that this series is rather popular that scan teams are willing to spend time to translate them for free, there are tons of manga out there that was drop/not pick up due to low popularity.

But end of the day i am just another manga lover behind a keyboard pretty sure my message won't even regisiter into most of you guys, so to the transaltion team who might not read this message, tho disappointed for the repeat translation, nevertheless thanks for your hard work and shall look forward to the next chapter.
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>all these butthurt people
Just let it go guys

: ^ )
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Quite harsh criticism for a service given for free. I find this somewhat distasteful. It was a different situation on KM because the scanlators had no control whatsoever on what appeared there; it was the management of the place who decided to randomly repost/replace chapters. The scanlator team members themselves, however, are the only ones qualified to judge whether they want to keep translating a series or not, following whatever schedule they are comfortable with, regardless of possible competition.
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jabaited to read the same chapter again -.-
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I HATE IT
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Would be better for you guys if you translate both this chapter and 45 and release it at same time.
As now many readers won't even care if you present a good quality work of same chapter that already scanlated before.
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Man a whole month just to re read it haha it was like trick instead of a treat
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Jeeze! "Phrasing" much, dude?

Last edited 22 days ago by ClueByFour.

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oooo boi... someone is about to go down real bad

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How about translated something that wasn't translated over a month ago?Like chapter 45,for example?
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why even release something that someone already did a month ago.........
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Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
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Thanks for the release! It's high quality, as usual.
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think i prefer awootism scans translation better.....
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wuajajajaja...
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LetItGo Scans you slow releasing fucks
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This is some Kissmanga level trolling right here. I dealt with it there for so long, so how did I fall for it here...

Last edited 22 days ago by Epicredeemer.

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I thought it was a new chapter too...
ohh well.

thank you fo the good work.
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Damnit, I was all excited for a new chapter. Dang. Thanks for your work I guess...
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I was like wtf didnt I read this awhile back... yep

fuck me
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