Ijiranaide, Nagatoro-san Japanese

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Vol. 3 Ch. 22 - Senpai! Let's go to the sea~!!
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Just here to confirm that the majority of the comments are about exactly what I thought they'd be about, keep up the good work butthurt people and those who engage them in conversation as if they aren't talking to a brick wall.
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The translator is absolutely based in telling snowflakes off. Jeez, all these people are just trying to make this place the new Bato.to, screw that.
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If you think normalfag should be replaced with normie, you're a normalfag.
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Kek @ people getting triggered by "normalfag" I just found it hilarious. Also wasn't mangadex literally made by 4chan anons?
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LOL, all this butthurt over normalfags being said.
Grow some skin thicker than plastic wrap.
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The main friend(the paisen one)'s face is priceless in the last frame.

Last edited 5 mo ago by KingHarkinian.

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Considering what this manga is about, I'm kinda amused people didn't expect the word to be in it. It's just a word, relax.
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That’s quite the plumber’s crack on her friend there.

Last edited 5 mo ago by Gingervitis.

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Dem tanlines.

Oh, the normalfag thing: The term itself is fine. It just doesn't seem to fit all that well in this, out of the blue like that. Otherwise, whatever.
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@Clad95150
"After reflexion, what bothered me the most was that in my mind the MC was kind of a "normal guy". Shy and without a lot of friends, but kind of normal anyway (because we never see him go on internet's forums nor use internet slang before). For me, I classify "Normalfag" as something only people who are often on Internet (and particularly site like 4chan) would say and I would expect these type of people to use more internet reference in everyday life. I wasn't prepared to see him use this word suddenly."

Umm... Normal people don't get bullied so badly, they learn how to cope with it by being in absolute solitude at school. It's established very early on in the series that he's a loser virgin that doesn't have the guts to casually hit on girls, even in pretend scenarios. He can't settle his own feelings and draw a girl if he starts feeling perverted. He watches lewd ecchi anime while at school. He bought super interesting manga like ToLoveRu to school because there was a nude bath chapter in it. He literally walks like the loser in the Chad Thundercock memes. He sits by himself in the cafeteria. He gets bullied by girls, obviously. He drew what is essentially fanfiction of himself and the girl he likes. If you did that to a girl and your affection was a one-sided, unrequited one, I'm sure most people would be disgusted in one way or another.

Without Nagatoro fawning over him, he's definitely, at LEAST the stereotype of the loser otaku virgin. If you keep that in mind, it's not hard to imagine him as an "incel" type. He's just not the "super drastic too-far-gone" type incel that stomps around saying he'll only date virgins or other trash, or a high level otaku that shamelessly wears anime merchandise clothing everywhere.

"Yeah, That's true that the MC and the other characters change (and it's a very nice part of the manga)."

All that aside, yeah, it's good character development. Nice, cutesy baby steps, compared to original, relentless Nagatoro.

Edited because I don't understand the quote function, it seems.

Last edited 5 mo ago by Talismaster.

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@Talismaster :
Yeah, That's true that the MC and the other characters change (and it's a very nice part of the manga). So I understand your point of view.
After reflexion, what bothered me the most was that in my mind the MC was kind of a "normal guy". Shy and without a lot of friends, but kind of normal anyway (because we never see him go on internet's forums nor use internet slang before). For me, I classify "Normalfag" as something only people who are often on Internet (and particularly site like 4chan) would say and I would expect these type of people to use more internet reference in everyday life. I wasn't prepared to see him use this word suddenly.
But it's not something impossible, so I'm still ok with that.

@frapco :
"If you're not happy, make a better translation"... Or we can just give constructed criticism that'll help others to improve.
"Shut your mouth or do it your way" is a poor mentality. Nobody's perfect and it's very rare that someone can do something flawlessly alone. I prefer "Work together to make something better" (that's why scantrads are often a team of peoples). If I can help them in some ways, why should I restrain myself?

Note that I said "constructed criticism" and "work together". Bashing, complaining without explaining or stealing work is not something good.
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lmaoing @ all the normalfags here getting triggered. Just do as @nyanpass said and make a better translation if you don't like stalker's one
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Says normalfag once

REEEeeeeEEE 4CHIN IS THE ANTI WHOAMAN NAZI wwwwWWWWHITE MAAAAaaaaales.

Alright, real shit though, I see no reason that “normalfag” is seen like he just stomped a baby’s head or something. The argument that states that the reason you don’t like it because of its origins seems pretty dumb. Don’t know if it’s guilt by association or genetic fallacy but either way it’s dumb. It’s like being offended at people say “person of color” because the KKK used it. Especially when everyone who uses it wants to be the LEAST offensive.

I don’t know what else trembles your feathers but if it is literal just the fact that “fag” is used in it, then that’s a “you” problem. I never got the notion that you can’t call something gay as in “Man, this game is trash dude, so fucking gay.” Like honestly there is no reason for unless the person goes ahead and says “God Hates Fags” or something, don’t give two shits mate.

Context my man, context.

Please stop whining over nothing and please free my nig- ehh I mean, free my nibber /a/nonymous.

Last edited 5 mo ago by Intahnetto.

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>everyone getting riled up at a word that's commonplace on a certain Mongolian basket weaving forum
>fully knowing where said group is from
>still crying about it
I mean, I can understand those who are not familiar to such diction, but to go and bring the pitchforks is quite silly and childish.
To be honest, I feel that he'd be a guy who'd say that in his thoughts anyway.

But good chapter regardless, thanks Stalker et al~!
Zephyrus
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All,

just a reminder that MD doesn't police content but we do police the comments and posts. I'm actually pretty proud of you guys for having mostly constructive dialogue without cussing each other out. I personally am uncomfortable with normalfag due to its origins and connotations.

As always, please feel free to PM me with any instances where the rules, especially 5.1, are being broken.

Thanks,

Zeph
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@Clad95150
Funny you say that, since as of late, Paisen has been growing a spine, and has acted with some initiative when flirting with Nagatoro, and defiant against her friends’ attempts to bully him. We all know it’s painful to watch, and as the person to take it, why wouldn’t he insult them in the safety of his own mind? I’m sure there’s no shortage of people that thought Nagatoro’s friends were being assholes this chapter.

Also, normie is a shortened version of normalfag in the same way tard is short for retard, or fag for faggot. Both should still be as insulting when used in this context. Again, only normies focus on the fag suffix, and shy towards using normie. It’s like how calling the mentally handicapped imbecile was a thing, and then people started a movement to call them “mentally-retarded”, when imbecile became a mainstream insult. Then retarded and retard became the new insult. Now we call it handicapped, challenged, special, and all sorts of flowery stuff people still use as insults.
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Thanks STALKER, greatest praise for delivering freshly squeezed normalfag tears

Last edited 5 mo ago by AbuHajaar.

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>chapter comments
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Heheh.
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Oh boy, tanlines too stronk for MC-kun!
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I'm enjoying this disaster of a comment section so here's what the translator has to say:
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